RootsChat.Com

'Pensioner local reserve'
 This is listed as under occupation on the 1881 census for one of mine aged 42 in Enfield...can anyone give me any detail as to what it might mean? I assume it is someone who has been in the army and is now on the reserve list.

Ta

Bopsey

Hi Everyone,

Back from my epic journey south…to absolutely no avail…I found zilch at the Met Archives. Looked through interminable parish records and went very cross eyed. 

However I did buy an Alan Godfrey map of the area and this has proved very useful.

I decided to go through the whole of the Shadwell districts in 1861 street by street and found this:

The description of District 6 (RG 9-282) says:

The parish of St Paul comprising
Bell Wharf Hill no 165
The whole of Dean Street
The whole of  Gould Hill
The whole of Gould Hill Green
Spring Gardens Place
Three Cup Alley, Three Cup Court
Broad Bridge, both sides of Middle Shadwell and the whole of Lower Shadwell

However only 22 pages are available it seems and the streets covered stop half way down Three Cup Alley. There is a mysterious note in the top right of 9/282 Folio 136 page 21. It has END written next to the folio number then ‘* see overleaf’ written next to it. I assume this means on the reverse as page 22 is there and no notes are visible.

Ancestry stops at p.22 and Find My Past stops at p.21

Of course all this means that Three Cup Court, Broad Bridge, both sides of Middle Shadwell and the whole of Lower Shadwell are missing, the most likely bit for my ancestors…..

Has anyone any idea how to find out what is written overleaf or where the rest of this district is. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Linda

1841 They also had a servant...Harriet Hatton aged 15.

Oh and I missed out Anne Gilmore their 23 year old female farm servant in 1851. She was a dairymaid.

Abbey farm was 170 acres by the way. Quite a biggy! He came a long way from a seedsman son in 10 years!

I'll have a look for you

Hi have found, not sure if you have:

1901 RG13/316/37 72 High Street Shadwell

John Ford 47 Wid Fishmonger employer
Peter 15 Assistant to father
Eliza 13 attending school  all born Shadwell.

291/13 (Bethnal Green)  there is a Louisa Ford 14 parents William & Caroline William is a book binder. Could be your death?

Jennifer

Hi Jennifer,

I had found the info about John Peter and Eliza. The other family don’t seem to be connected but I’ll keep them in the pot just in case! Loisa was Johns daughter it seems by a second marriage/relationship and was born about 1902. The death I found should have been 1916 (1c 562) –typist finger struck again-aged 15 so this may be a match.

Out of John and Sarah’s children who were there on the 1891 census I am unable the ones highlighted  in 1901-very strange

HARRY FORD, b. 1875.
WILLIAM FORD, b. 1877, Ratcliff; d. 1888, Stepney. (Stepney  1c 268)
ALFRED FORD, b. 1879, Ratcliff.
SAMUEL FORD, b. 1881, Shadwell. (Birth June 1881, Stepney  1c 418)
CHARLES FORD, b. 1884, Shadwell.
PETER FORD, b. 1885, Shadwell.
ELIZA FORD, b. 1888, Shadwell;
HANNAH FORD, b. 1891, Shadwell.

….And of course John Ford, his wife Caroline and family

There doesn’t seem to be any deaths between 1891 and 1901that match either……

Thanks for your interest

Linda