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Hi Carol

Wow i don't know how you did that! I have been searching ancestryUK and familysearch. for something and have not come up with much! That all sounds spot on. So if thats the case with Edith maybe she had Alfred out of wedlock.
Kinda weird with the things i did find on Edith as on Sidney G Palmers birth on familysearch she is recorded as Edith Stone Street. I would like to know how many husbands this woman had 

I also found in 1911 there was a Edith Stone who married a man last name Street so that maybe explain that, yet there is still that question of where she got the bishop name...what you have sounds all correct...i at least have that to work on!

Will need to get birth cert for Alfred!

Thank you so much 
Cat

Hi Delboy

Thanks for that! The Bishop i mentioned started in England so wouldn't be anything in the NZ index sorry. Thanks for the offer though!

Do you know if there was a marriage for Edgar Foster and Edna Walker in that index? They may have married in England, but i don't know for sure.

Thanks Cat

Hi Casalguidi,
Thanks for taking a interest in my research, I'm afraid i don't know too much, my grandfather has Alfreds and Muriels wedding  cert, i will need to ring him and ask him to give me all the details on it i think.  He didn't mention any parents names, just Abel as being a witness and his stepfather. Abel was a painter/decorator.

I assume Alfred died before 1969 as my grandparents left UK in 1961 and he wasn't around then, i'm thinking he may have died late 1940-early 50s.  i recall my mother saying he was only around 40 and she never met him, she was born 1957.  He would have never left the Kent area. I'm pretty sure he would have been a farmer or something along those lines.

The only proof i have found of Edith and Abel is from 2 records of another son. I found them on FamilySearch. 1 was for his birth recording that his parents were Abel and Edith, he was born in 1924, in Hawkhurst, Kent. Then there was another for his marriage in 1953, stating the same.  I have been told Abel only married once. His wife (Alfreds mother) apparently ran off with another man in the end (after 4 children with Abel)  Abel never married again and Alfred never talked to his mother again after that.

I think Stone is Ediths maiden name, Street may have been a first marriage? Busy lady thats for sure! Somewhere in her history there should be a Bishop if she is the mother, I have a few things found on Edith yet nothing i want to dig into too much as not sure if it is all the same lady and records are to sketchy!

Sounds so complicated, yet you got one up on me as i haven't been able to find any  marriage for Alfred or Muriel!  i only know from the marriage cert that Grandad read to me over the phone.  Might need him to scan it and email it to me!

Hi Kate NZ

Thanks for that, i think i will get some certs on them, i don't know any dates at all so its making some things a little difficult, would be alright if i had contact with that side of the family, but my attempt has not been returned as yet! I thought my mothers side was going to be more difficult but i have tracked back to 2x my gt gt grandparents on my grandmothers side now. Finding it easier researching family in the 1800s then it is to research early 1900s! Especially when there are marriages or babies out of wedlock!  England seems to have alot of places to search yet my family seems to evade all records!
For example my last name is Bishop and it only dates back to my gt grandfather he was the only child in the family with that name, its like his mother just grabbed it out of thin air! She had 3 last names that i have come up with so far, maiden and 2 marriages, none to a Bishop! 
I enjoy doing this research but i think some things i may have to get a pro in for them to be resolved!
Once again thanks
Cat