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Derbyshire / Re: Village name from 1851 census
« on: Friday 08 March 24 07:30 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Graham,
I hadn't noticed that but it's a very useful find.
Do you know of anyone who has compiled any of these Garlick family groups from Hadfield, Gamesley or Simondley?
I'd love to contact them and see what they know.
Thanks.
Chris.
I've done a few of the Garlick family lines in the area (see https://www.gjh.me.uk/glfamhis/gfh000.htm) but this particular one unfortunately appears not to be one of them.

I've had a look in records of analyses I did years ago and found:
Joseph Garlick, = 15 Sep 1789, Sophiah Mottram of Glossop, witnesses William          Hegginbottom, Samuel Bowden. Children:
      John Garlick, bpt 28 Dec 1791, St Mary's, Charlesworth.
      Samuel Garlick, bpt 18 May 1794, St Mary's, Charlesworth.
      William Garlick, bpt 18 Jul 1796, St Mary's, Charlesworth.
      James Garlick, bpt 6 Jun 1800, St Mary's, Charlesworth.
      Martha Garlick, bpt 29 Jan 1805, St Mary's, Charlesworth.
      Ann Garlick, bpt 4 Jul 1808, St Mary's, Charlesworth.

Also (which might be the son Thomas):
John Garlick, = Betty. Child
      Thomas Garlick, bpt 14 Mar 1813, St Mary's, Charlesworth.

Unlike many of the family names in the area the Garlicks tended not to leave wills so it is difficult to tie them together.

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Derbyshire / Re: Village name from 1851 census
« on: Wednesday 06 March 24 08:34 GMT (UK)  »
Could it be Simmondley? which is not very far from Charlesworth if you look on the map.

I'd plumped for Simondly - I think he's there in '41?
He is - Glossop, Piece 185, Book 15, Folio 19, Page number 21
Higher up the page is the family of Thomas and Mary with whom he is living in 1851.

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If you oppose the proposals to destroy the original post-1858 wills, and if you are a British citizen or UK resident, please consider signing the House of Commons petition, and please share with others.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/654081
I was amused by point number 1 saying "We think costs of digital preservation and storage could be astronomical." yet the petitioner has not even attempted to address the costs of continuing to preserve the originals (as if it will be free).

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Derbyshire / Re: HADFIELD in Chapel en le Frith/Chapel Milton in 17th/18th Centuries
« on: Wednesday 03 January 24 08:29 GMT (UK)  »
There is a will & inventory of a John Hadfield of Chapel Milton in the Lichfield records (accessible via FindMyPast). It is dated 7 October 1723 with probate April 1724. His wife was Ann and some of the children named are the same. Some of the witnesses are named Lingard.

He seems to have been fairly well off so may have been the John Hadfield from whom the land for the building of Chinley Independent Chapel was purchased (though Clegg appears not to mention him otherwise).

Marriages at the time were supposed to take place at the parish church at Glossop but it was a long journey all the way up there so people sometimes used the church at Hayfield.

Hadfield wasn't all that uncommon a surname, arising from the villages of Hadfield and Hayfield (there were more Hadfields in the 1851 census in Glossop itself than all the other local surname combined).

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And these missing documents were wills? I think not somehow.
Than you think wrongly I am afraid.

But again, no one is arguing against making digital copies. The argument is against DESTROYING THE ORIGINALS.
The argument is whether the cost to the public purse of keeping them is worth it or whether, given that alternative methods of retaining the information now exist, the money would be better spent in other ways.

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The point I am making is that if you leave a paper will sitting on a shelf for 100 or 200 years, and come back, you will still be able to read it. You leave a digital record alone for 50 years and come back, I guarantee you won't be able to read it.
In my days working in Data Protection and FoI, I had occasion to read many old paper records or, I should say, try to read them - and that was records about 20 or 30 years old maximum, not 100 or 200.

I have found it frustrating, on more than one occasion over the years to be told by an archive "The documents are listed in the index but they have gone missing at some time in the past".

The point has already been made that storage has to be controlled (both environmental and security aspects) for physical documents to ensure that they are still around in the future. That is logically the same as properly maintaining digital records. Neither can be just left alone.

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It isn't always true that paper copies are good indefinitely though is it? Think about the WW1 burnt records and the 1931 census for instance.

I'm sure many of us know of data managers who have failed to make backup copies, to convert files before their original file formats go out of support or to ensure that they replace storage media before they become unreadable.
Those factors, though, are a failure of management rather than of life of the medium.

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The Common Room / Re: Probate Calendar - can I find the will and if so how?!
« on: Saturday 04 November 23 07:31 GMT (UK)  »
The documents are not on-line but you can order a copy via the service at https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

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Derbyshire / Re: Baptisms at Glossop
« on: Sunday 06 August 23 08:21 BST (UK)  »
Marjorie Ward, who created the web pages referred to several years ago now, did so by studying the actual parish registers (by special arrangement) at Derbyshire Record Office because the films were not high enough quality in some instances.

The hosting of the pages appeared to be under threat after Rootsweb was acquired by Ancestry in 2000 (the pages were inaccessible for a while) so Marjorie created her own web site at http://www.nwdbysources.uk/ to make sure that the information remained (and remains) available.

Ancestry obviously made the pages accessible again but I always use Marjorie's own site now.

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