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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: Baptism places for the Campbell family
« on: Wednesday 22 June 16 21:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks Omega,
This is a great help,
Janet
This is a great help,
Janet
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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: Baptism places for the Campbell family
« on: Wednesday 22 June 16 11:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this information. I'd thought it a bit odd that Familysearch said Charlotte was born in 1764!! Must have been days not years!
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Sussex Lookup Requests / Baptism places for the Campbell family
« on: Wednesday 22 June 16 10:41 BST (UK) »
I wonder if anyone would be able to help me identify where the children of Septimus and Sarah Campbell were baptised? I've found 5 children on Familysearch, but for four of them there is no place name, just a date and the county. They are:
Charlotte - 13.1.1787 Salehurst, Sussex
Ann - 7.11.1790
Harriet - 24.12.1793
Henry - 19.6.1796
Jonathan - 14.5.1809
There is another child, Philadelphia (my 3x gt grandmother) who was born in 1791, but I can't find any sign of a baptism for her. On the 1851 census her birthplace is recorded as Dallington, Sussex and in 1809 she married in Mountfield, Sussex.
In either 1793 or 1796 Septimus Campell of blacksmith of Mountfield is mentioned in a Will, and in 1797 there are Old Bailey records saying Septimus Campbell of Vine-Hall.
I'm also looking into Septimus' birthplace and his siblings (including Nonus, Decimus, Monimia, and Octavus!) - but I'll leave that for another question!
Thanks for your help,
Charlotte - 13.1.1787 Salehurst, Sussex
Ann - 7.11.1790
Harriet - 24.12.1793
Henry - 19.6.1796
Jonathan - 14.5.1809
There is another child, Philadelphia (my 3x gt grandmother) who was born in 1791, but I can't find any sign of a baptism for her. On the 1851 census her birthplace is recorded as Dallington, Sussex and in 1809 she married in Mountfield, Sussex.
In either 1793 or 1796 Septimus Campell of blacksmith of Mountfield is mentioned in a Will, and in 1797 there are Old Bailey records saying Septimus Campbell of Vine-Hall.
I'm also looking into Septimus' birthplace and his siblings (including Nonus, Decimus, Monimia, and Octavus!) - but I'll leave that for another question!
Thanks for your help,
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One Name Studies: A to G / Re: Brotherton/Bretherton of Warrington, Lancs
« on: Saturday 02 August 14 11:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Jenny,
Richard and Mary Brotherton were my 3x great grandparents too! They had a son, Enoch, and his daughter Jane was my great grandmother.
I live relatively near to Warrington and have been to their Records Office a couple of times, but haven't got any further back with the family than Richard and Mary. I must admit I haven't looked at my Brotherton/Bretherton family for a while, but it's on my to do list!
Best wishes,
Janet
Richard and Mary Brotherton were my 3x great grandparents too! They had a son, Enoch, and his daughter Jane was my great grandmother.
I live relatively near to Warrington and have been to their Records Office a couple of times, but haven't got any further back with the family than Richard and Mary. I must admit I haven't looked at my Brotherton/Bretherton family for a while, but it's on my to do list!
Best wishes,
Janet
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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Re: Another Ellusive Skelly Daughter!
« on: Sunday 29 December 13 18:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi Billy,
Thank you for this information. I had Adam's date of death from his Will, but even though I had the date, I've not been able to find a death registration for him. I'd had no luck looking for his burial in on-line records for London either - now I know why!
I'll add Irvine Old Parish Kirkyard to my list of places to visit!
Thanks again for your help,
Janet
Thank you for this information
. I had Adam's date of death from his Will, but even though I had the date, I've not been able to find a death registration for him. I'd had no luck looking for his burial in on-line records for London either - now I know why!I'll add Irvine Old Parish Kirkyard to my list of places to visit!
Thanks again for your help,
Janet
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Lancashire / Re: 13 Princes Half Tide Dock Liverpool
« on: Wednesday 13 November 13 09:59 GMT (UK) »
I'll try and get the death certificate scanned to put on here, but the 13 doesn't seem to be a correction, and there is no mention of a Coroner. The death was certified by F V Buxton, M.B.
Clara was 14 years older than Marian, and a school teacher, so I wonder if she had been putting money aside for her over the years, especially as she was "delicate" and wouldn't have been able to support herself.
I'll send for the Will/Administration, just in case there are any clues.
Clara was 14 years older than Marian, and a school teacher, so I wonder if she had been putting money aside for her over the years, especially as she was "delicate" and wouldn't have been able to support herself.
I'll send for the Will/Administration, just in case there are any clues.
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Lancashire / Re: 13 Princes Half Tide Dock Liverpool
« on: Tuesday 12 November 13 18:05 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for all your comments.
Yes, her father Archie was the publican at the Salutation Pub, 199 Walton Road.
It surprised me too when I found the probate record for her, but she was only 14 (baptised at St Johns, Bootle 7.7.1907 and born 15.10.1906). As it says "Administration Liverpool" do you think it would be worth me sending for her Will? I've never sent for one before but seem to remember reading that if it says Administration rather than Probate, there might not be much information available?
I haven't been able to find her burial place so far.
Unfortunately, I don't know exactly when my grandmother Clara left with Marian, although I suspect it was sometime between 1911 (when the step-mother's baby died) and 1917 (when the step-mother died). The address she gave as her residence on Marian's death cert was 47 Gloucester Road, which is also the address she gave on her marriage certificate in 1924. So I presume Clara didn't return to live with her father, Archie.
Archie sound like a bit of a lad! He married 3 times, and each time the age gap between him and his wife grew (3 years, 7 years and 22 years) and my Mum (also Marian) told me that his children would get new clothes if he won on the horses, but the next week they might be pawned if he lost! I've found newspaper reports about him going bankrupt after selling bad meat from Pork Butcher shops that he'd bought from someone interned in WWI. Quite an interesting character!
Yes, her father Archie was the publican at the Salutation Pub, 199 Walton Road.
It surprised me too when I found the probate record for her, but she was only 14 (baptised at St Johns, Bootle 7.7.1907 and born 15.10.1906). As it says "Administration Liverpool" do you think it would be worth me sending for her Will? I've never sent for one before but seem to remember reading that if it says Administration rather than Probate, there might not be much information available?
I haven't been able to find her burial place so far.
Unfortunately, I don't know exactly when my grandmother Clara left with Marian, although I suspect it was sometime between 1911 (when the step-mother's baby died) and 1917 (when the step-mother died). The address she gave as her residence on Marian's death cert was 47 Gloucester Road, which is also the address she gave on her marriage certificate in 1924. So I presume Clara didn't return to live with her father, Archie.
Archie sound like a bit of a lad! He married 3 times, and each time the age gap between him and his wife grew (3 years, 7 years and 22 years) and my Mum (also Marian) told me that his children would get new clothes if he won on the horses, but the next week they might be pawned if he lost! I've found newspaper reports about him going bankrupt after selling bad meat from Pork Butcher shops that he'd bought from someone interned in WWI. Quite an interesting character!
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Lancashire / Re: 13 Princes Half Tide Dock Liverpool
« on: Tuesday 12 November 13 14:11 GMT (UK) »
I don't think the family had any connections with the canal, or at least no one in the family has ever mentioned it!
Having looked at the 1901 and 1911 census there do appear to be some residences with numbers, i.e. the pier master is at 11 Princes Graving Dock, but I couldn't find no. 13 mentioned. However, there is a family living at a "receiving house" (whatever that is?) and I've found some entries on the Toxteth Park Cemetery site for people whose abode is given as "Dead House Princes Dock", so I wonder if there was some kind of hospital/mortuary in the area?
I suppose it's possible that Marian could have died suddenly while out and about (given her cause of death/medial history) and was taken to the nearest suitable place?
Having looked at the 1901 and 1911 census there do appear to be some residences with numbers, i.e. the pier master is at 11 Princes Graving Dock, but I couldn't find no. 13 mentioned. However, there is a family living at a "receiving house" (whatever that is?) and I've found some entries on the Toxteth Park Cemetery site for people whose abode is given as "Dead House Princes Dock", so I wonder if there was some kind of hospital/mortuary in the area?
I suppose it's possible that Marian could have died suddenly while out and about (given her cause of death/medial history) and was taken to the nearest suitable place?
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Lancashire / Re: 13 Princes Half Tide Dock Liverpool
« on: Tuesday 12 November 13 08:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Thanks for your replies.
I don't think her sister (my grandmother) was living at the Princes Dock address - the address she gave as informant was a different one, belonging to her aunt Kate. (there's a long story here - wicked step-mother has a baby who dies and makes a comment along the lines of "why did my baby die when that cripple is still alive (Marian)" at which point my GM slaps step-mother and leaves the family home, taking Marian with her, to go and live with aunt Kate, who was her mother's best friend!).
My main puzzle is why would a 14 year old die in what was presumably a working area in 1921. Could there have been a habour master's house or some such that she was visiting?
[I've just had a thought and will try looking through the census' to see if there is a residence at no. 13 - ahhah! why didn't I think of that earlier?!]
I don't think her sister (my grandmother) was living at the Princes Dock address - the address she gave as informant was a different one, belonging to her aunt Kate. (there's a long story here - wicked step-mother has a baby who dies and makes a comment along the lines of "why did my baby die when that cripple is still alive (Marian)" at which point my GM slaps step-mother and leaves the family home, taking Marian with her, to go and live with aunt Kate, who was her mother's best friend!).
My main puzzle is why would a 14 year old die in what was presumably a working area in 1921. Could there have been a habour master's house or some such that she was visiting?
[I've just had a thought and will try looking through the census' to see if there is a residence at no. 13 - ahhah! why didn't I think of that earlier?!]