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Cheshire / Re: Information sought on possible orphanages in Woodchurch, Birkenhead.
« on: Sunday 25 February 24 15:53 GMT (UK)  »
Oops, I just realised that my theory doesn't hold water, because the Woodchurch registration sub-district included everything from Hoylake, where she was born, to Oxton and Prenton, where I think the children's homes I cited above were located (https://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/subdists.php).

So the fact that in 1911 she was declared as being born in Wirral, Woodchurch, Cheshire, is just a "copy/paste" from her birth certificate which has at the top, "Wirral district, Woodchurch sub-district, and Cheshire county (it actually says "County of Chester).

So my hasty conclusions come to nothing!

My apologies KGarrad :-[

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Cheshire / Re: Information sought on possible orphanages in Woodchurch, Birkenhead.
« on: Sunday 25 February 24 15:28 GMT (UK)  »
www.childrenshomes.org.uk seems to mainly list more recent places on The Wirral.

There is a section at https://www.workhouses.org.uk/Birkenhead/#Homes which explains that from the early 1900s the Union (which ran the workhouse) began making extensive use of scattered homes to house its children and gives a bunch of addresses, none of which appear to be in Woodchurch.

It does not list the places I mention above, presumably because these were run by the church. I suppose there may have been others run by the church.

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Cheshire / Re: Information sought on possible orphanages in Woodchurch, Birkenhead.
« on: Sunday 25 February 24 13:53 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks a lot, KGarrad. I think I've looked at http://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/ before, but seem to find more stuff on there. Now looking through it.

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Cheshire / Information sought on possible orphanages in Woodchurch, Birkenhead.
« on: Sunday 25 February 24 08:07 GMT (UK)  »
I wonder if anyone knows of any orphanages in Woodchurch, Birkenhead, that would have existed in the period of around 1905. I am trying to see what might have happened to a certain Marjorie Crowe born in 1905 in Hoylake. (N.B. This is not a request for lookups, as I already have information about her on the census, birth record, etc.)

There are two pieces of evidence that suggest she spent some time in Woodchurch after her birth:

(1) Her birth, on 16 January 1905, was registered in the sub-district of Woodchurch on 6 February 1905.

(2) On the 1911 census, her adoptive parents, George and Mary Carrington, give her place of birth as Wirral, Woodchurch, Cheshire. This suggests that the Carrington's did not know that Marjorie was actually born in Hoylake, which reinforces the idea that she was living in Woodchurch when she was adopted.

I am aware of perhaps a couple of orphanages near Woodchurch:

(1) The one at 1 Christchurch road, Birkenhead, which is referred to here: https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=310212.msg5108271#msg5108271

(2) The one referred to here: http://christchurchbirkenhead.net/pages/history/je06.htm

As I understand it, these are both near to, but not actually in Woodchurch. Does anyone know of any such places in Woodchurch where an infant (actually from birth) could have been placed in 1905? Or is it possible that the places mentioned above could have been considered as being in Woodchurch at that time?

I also wonder if the two places listed above are connected and they seem to be close to each other, unless I am mistaken, which is quite possible!

Many thanks,

Alan

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The Common Room / Re: Adoption search
« on: Friday 03 June 22 13:49 BST (UK)  »
Apologies ShaunJ for the duplicate post.

Thank you very much, Andrew, for your suggestion. I will look into that.

Thank you wivenhoe. My question was mainly about what publication this would have been advertised in and any suggestions as to other places to look. I was not seeking to bother anyone at the moment with lookups, if that's what you mean.

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Cheshire / Re: Adoption search
« on: Friday 03 June 22 13:45 BST (UK)  »
Apologies ShaunJ for the duplicate post. Thank you DCB, and CaroleW. Yes, I do have the information on Marjorie's family. My question was mainly about what publication this would have been advertised in and any suggestions as to other places to look. The adresses for the birth registration and Christening were different numbers in Back Sea View.

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Cheshire / Adoption search
« on: Friday 03 June 22 09:23 BST (UK)  »
Trying to help someone identify the birth mother of their grandmother, Marjorie Crowe, born in 1905 to one Eleanor Crowe and later adopted. DNA suggests it might be a certain Sarah Eleanor Crowe, who would actually be my half 1st cousin one removed. However, I need to find some firmer evidence for or against this theory. Marjorie's birth and Christening certificates show that her mother was living in Back Sea View in Hoylake cum West Kirby at the time.

Apparently, she was "advertised in the local paper" for adoption and was adopted by a couple living in Frodsham, which is some distance away. I was wondering if some record of this advertisement could be found and if it might give any indications. Does anyone have any idea what the "the local paper" might have been to have been read as far away as Frodsham and if some archives are available?

Given that Marjorie was born in 1905, which is in between the 1901 and 1911 censuses, does anyone have any suggestion as to any other local records that might shed light on this research?

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The Common Room / Adoption search
« on: Friday 03 June 22 07:12 BST (UK)  »
(Dear moderator, I realise that I should have put the local question in the Cheshire forum, so I will post it there. Please remove from here if you think it's inappropriate.)

Trying to help someone identify the birth mother of their grandmother, Marjorie Crowe, born in 1905 to one Eleanor Crowe and later adopted. DNA suggests it might be a certain Sarah Eleanor Crowe, who would actually be my half 1st cousin one removed. However, I need to find some firmer evidence for or against this theory. Marjorie's birth and Christening certificates show that her mother was living in Back Sea View in Hoylake cum West Kirby at the time.

Given that Marjorie was born in 1905, which is in between the 1901 and 1911 censuses, does anyone have any suggestion as to any other records that might shed light on this research?

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Cheshire Lookup Requests / Re: Address search in Hoylake Cum West Kirby
« on: Friday 27 May 22 09:47 BST (UK)  »
Thank you so much, BumbleB. Much appreciated.

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