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Bogan   Andrew   43   Male   Head of Family   Roman Catholic
Bogan   Ellen   41   Female   Wife   Roman Catholic
Bogan   John   10   Male   Son   Roman Catholic
Bogan   Mary   7   Female   Daughter   Roman Catholic
Bogan   Owen   6   Male   Son   Roman Catholic
Bogan   Catherine   5   Male   Son   Roman Catholic
Bogan   Thomas Henry   3   Male   Son   Roman Catholic
Bogan   Hary   88   Female   Mother   Roman Catholic

I have just come across a listing of John, and it seems that with the 1901 census he being only 4 months old it may be that this one that adds ten years to a 1911 census may be one of the Bogans we are looking for.

I haven't had time to digest the previous, but where was this Hugh (viz., in the line above)?  Couldn't find that reference.

The point that is being made is that while Census, and other things, may point in one direction there are still other twists and turns in that illusive quest to remake our histories.  Or even write them where there has been none.  Here, given the assistance of Aghadowey, we have another path to travel just to unwrap our forebares.

And I thank you.

As to your reference to my replies to you, there was only one that covered these last ten years and the dates that were overlooked regarding County Louth.  I have not visited these boards for those ten years and am a bit puzzled regarding your remark.

So you found the marriage of Andrew and Ellen; would you care to share your source(s)?

By the way, there is a reference to a "Hary", who was 88 years old and said to be a mother, would that be Andrew's mother?

jjc

You will note above that Charles (who was known until that time as Charles Andrew) was listed as a nephew of Catherine.  Actually Charles that was living in Corkhill, with his grandmother Catherine.  The description as a "nephew", we believe was wrongly described, because at that time the term was used as a grandchild.  The term lost its use in the 20th century and became exceeding rare.

Even to the middle of the last century one must watch how certain terms were used.  For example, 'friends' and 'cousins' were used interchangeably as we found out when looking around in 1982 when we first were introduced to such terms.

JJC

Two items: and the first was "Coady 1911  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mti/" which when looking at this only one Coady was found when the census came to County Tyrone.  The Coady was "Coady, James   26   Male   Lodger   Roman Catholic" and he resided in the McGuigan household. This was the single entry in the County for a Coady.

Regarding the thread (new or old) and a reply to something or someone, when I stated that the person that had left for Dublin (and when was not a given) it would be very expensive (when we have so little time left) if we were to check off all of the records could possibly be used. 

Catherine was an individual that married a Coady (who, what, when and wear were not given, nor known at this point); she moved to Irishtown in Dublin with her family (and we don't have a place name to associate with Irishtown and the street addresses that they may have resided in). 

Time is relative to youngsters but can be extremely expensive to an oldster such as myself.

jjc

Where did the Bogans begin after Owen and Catherine McCusker married?  Ellen McCarroll was born 3 January 1871.  She was to marry Andrew Bogan (and the account given for the funeral of Michael J. McCarroll indicates that this was his brother-in-law) and I have been unable to find any record of Ellen and Andrew's marriage, which should have taken place around 1899.

We arrived at that by going to the 1911 Census return for the family at Cattor that posited that the couple had been married for a period of 12 years.  (There is some confusion in that the first child was born November 1900, but there is no cogent explanation given anywhere we could find, nor inclusion in the 1901 census).

Andrew and Ellen had a number of children: John (1900); Charles Andrew (1902); Mary (1903); Owen (1904); Catherine (1905); Thomas Henry (1907); Michael Joseph (1911); and Hugh (1913).

The first seven children were born at Cattor in the Clogher district, while Hugh was born at Tullyrush in the Donnacavey district. Ellen Bogan died 27 May 1917 and her home address was given as Tullyrush, Fintona. This was given by a Teresa Ross, possibly a daughter of Hugh Bogan. There is a problem with the demise of Andrew, in that there does not seem to be any death record.

Catherine Bogan (Kitty) the fifth child, relocated to Dublin.  She was married to a Coady and they had a number of children: Mary, John, Patrick, Kelly, James and Michael.  Little is known about the Coady's other than Pat being married to Fiona, a solicitor in Dublin, and Mary who is married to a an real estate tycoon in France.

Yes  and what did I get?  No Thomas, but the rest of the Gaffigan Clan.  Patrick, Mary, and John showed up in the 1861 census registration. 

I ran it with the ages, rather than by name, as in John, eliminating everything but ages 1 through 3 on the census information.  I did that for each group (still no Thomas) using your asterisk's.

Using your asterisk would cost a bundle, which I do not have, were I to track each and every one that came up. For example, for John there were 263 hits in 4 categories.  For Thomas, 133 in 4 categories and Thomas became a hit this time.  But it wasn't anything different for the family unit.

Although it was a wild goose chase - IN THIS INSTANCE - it is a way to cross reference and look at those things that are so far away, and ancient, it should be done if you are not confident that something else will pop-up.