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Hi Pat.   Found!!!    Rhos Cottage was the stables for the mines until the 1880's when it was bought by a family from Cheshire who still run it as a farm.  Rhos Farm was/is Rhos Isa, on the opposite side of the road to Rhos Cottage.   There is quite a long explanation which I have posted with some photos to your hotmail account.  Could not resist posting here for the benefit of other listers, a delightful photo of Llanferres

Barry

Good morning again.  Sorry patvp but I am at a loss.  I had a look at the census image (if you do not have access to this I can e-mail you a copy) because the enumerator often worked sequentially and I thought that might give a clue to where the farm was geographically.  Sadly it is plumb between the Schoolhouse and Rhos Cottage so that was no help, although it does narrow it down a little because Llanferres was divided into two districts for the census and Rhos Farm was in District 6 west of the river.   The 1871 census lists Ross Farm (cottage) in which lived a lead mine clerk and Rhos (farm) in which lived a retired farmer.  The 1891 census does not list Rhos Farm but does show Rhos Cottage in which lived a farmer so I am wondering if it was one building in 1882 and subsequently converted into a single dwelling.   1891 also lists a house called Upper Rhos in which also lived a farmer.  Now the land rises sharply to the west behind Rhos up to Fron Hen and there are several houses along a lane so the other possibility is that Upper Rhos in 1891 was the Rhos Farm of 1881 and has since been renamed again - but the OS map does not show it!  I do return to Llanferres a couple of times a year researching and next time I will have a good look for you and see if I can find any clues - but it might not be for a while as our winter weather is not conducive to driving a whole 250 miles!!!

I have never found any old photos in the Ruthin Records Office although the Druid did have a few on the wall but mainly the village.  Incidentally, there are two pubs - not bad for a peak population of 800 people!  The vestry also used to meet in the Druid!!  If you want a 'today' photo I will do that next time I visit.

Barry

Sometimes these small obscure addresses are hard to find on maps and I have had a similar problem.  Often the enumerators followed roads in sequence when conducting the census and you may find the preceding and succeeding addresses on the census images give you a clue where to look

Sarajane was looking in Sept 2005 for a William Powell in Eastchurch.   Carol found a William Powell b 1812.  He was my great great grandfather.  His son William b1840 married an Amy Gates who died giving birth to my grandmother Elizabeth Powell in 1863.   William 1840 then remarried a Margaret Clasper from Co Durham and had many many more children.  Amy & William also had a son Oliver who emigrated to New Zealand and married there, with two daughters Olive and Nathalie - probably in the Auckland area.

If carol or sarajane have any more information on the William Powell line I would be most grateful and I wonder if  anyone in NZ can help me find Oliver's history.

Barry 1936