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Essex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Rainham Ferry photo request
« on: Monday 15 June 09 10:17 BST (UK)  »
I cannot help you directly, but I think you will be lucky because I doubt if Rainham Ferry existed in 1915.  Back in 1952 I worked for Murex at Rainham Ferry which was a huge manufacturing metallurgists and chemical site. It had been established in the mid 1800's in great secrecy on this isolated marshland location over a mile from civilisation and I don't think the German founder would have chosen it if the ferry had still been operating.  This document http://www.havering.gov.uk/media/pdf/g/c/Rainham_CAA_rev_3_16_Feb_07.pdf mentions the ferry briefly and it appears it was made redundant by the advent of the railway in 1854.  British History also gives some information http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=42827&strquery=rainham%20ferry

Barry

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Essex / Re: Grays Thurrock Parish Registers
« on: Wednesday 06 May 09 14:32 BST (UK)  »
Essex Records Office have the Grays registers on microfiche.  See this link
http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk/displayParishContents.asp?selAlphabet=G&selParish=6547&selChurch=6571

If searching the SEAX catalogue for parish records it is much quicker and simpler to go to their 'Essex Ancestors' section.

Barry

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Flintshire / Re: Gwernymynydd Davies/Williams
« on: Saturday 25 April 09 17:38 BST (UK)  »
Like you Alan I have lead mining Williams from that area and it is a nightmare, especially as they seem restricted to a limited number of Christian names!  I cannot help you precisely but I found that the lead miners moved backwards and forwards between Flintshire and Denbighshire parishes, mainly Gwerymynydd, Llanferres and Treuddyn parishes, probably as the mines opened or closed.  For example, Fron is very close to Maeshafn mines just over the border.

I ended up doing a 'one name study' on a few adjacent parishes using the parish register transcripts at Ruthin Records Office (I think Hawarden also have copies) which with the various census images allowed me to trace some people as they moved around.  If you cannot get into the records offices then Clwyd FHS have hard copies of the registers for sale at a very reasonable price.  Hope this help a little.

Barry

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London and Middlesex / Re: Clerkenwell Baptism 1819ish: Search for a church
« on: Sunday 08 March 09 12:51 GMT (UK)  »
I started working outwards, Rachel, but soon realized the magnitude of the task.  I then tried to find a better starting point than just Clerkenwell.  I had an address in c1841 of Theobalds Rd and 1923 Chelsea Pension army record giving St George Martyr as a place of birth.  St George Martyr drew a blank but a guess at St Andrew's proved lucky, even though two census record the place of birth as Clerkenwell.   I also had his marriage in the City of London Reg D so naturally homed in on St Andrew's but eventually found them on the other side of The City in St Michael's Bassetslaw. I cannot remember how I got there! 

I think the moral is search for clues no matter how remote they may seem, then cross your fingers for good luck but if it is London, be prepared for a long haul.

Barry

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London and Middlesex / Re: Clerkenwell Baptism 1819ish: Search for a church
« on: Saturday 07 March 09 13:48 GMT (UK)  »
I have found that 'Clerkenwell' as a birth place on census returns can be a bit loose and you may need to look further afield.   The old parish of Clerkenwell grew rapidly close to the City of London so many people also used churches over the border.  For example, I have found 'Clerkenwell' people baptised in St Andrew Holborn and St George the Martyr.    I found this Genuki page more useful than the map, to explain what parishes existed when and where

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bpefisk/fh/Middx/Ossulstone%20Hundred%20-%20Holborn%20Division.html#Clerkenwell%20[St%20James]

Barry

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If there are no takers, you could register them with one of these sites

http://www.certificate-exchange.co.uk/
http://bmd-cert-exch-site.ourwardfamily.com/

Barry1936

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Essex / Re: Colchester, East Stockwell Street, Lissamores cottage.
« on: Friday 20 February 09 21:00 GMT (UK)  »
I should have thought about that army connection myself with Colchester being a garrison town - much more likely than having relatives there.  Have you seen this web site? http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk/dutchquarter2.html  It shows Peake's House and the gated gap which would have been Lissimore's Yard in 1901. Interestingly, the top photo shows the timber gates as they are today and the lower photo must be much older with iron gates. Good luck with your searching.

Barry

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Essex / Re: Colchester, East Stockwell Street, Lissamores cottage.
« on: Wednesday 18 February 09 19:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Quasar, I think I can help you a little.  Firstly, have you looked at the 1901 census?  There it is referred to as Lissimores Yard rather than Lissamore's Cottages.  I think the 1901 spelling is correct because the Lissimore's are an old Colchester family (still around) and in 1901 they occupied No 31 & 32 East Stockwell Street.  The next entry on the enumerator's return is Lissimore's Yard with 4 families living there.  31 & 32 Stockwell St is a 14th-16th century building well known as Peakes House.  Then there is a little confusion because the enumerator's next entry is 33 Stockwell St (In old Colchester the numbers run sequentially up one side of a road and down the other) and now there isn't a 33.  I walked down East Stockwell today and the next building to No 30/32 is No 36 which used to be an Inn (Royal Oak) but is now offices and certainly existed in 1901 - perhaps there has been some tinkering with the numbers.  Between 32 and 36 is a gap which could well have led to Lissimores Yard but it does not exist now as the whole area at the back is a relatively modern redevelopment.  The 1901 census reference is RG13/709 folio73 pp 6 and it was District 6 in Colchester's 2nd Ward.

You asked why your grandmother might have gone to Colchester.  There might be a clue in the 1901 census because in West Stockwell Street was a Griffin family, which you said was your grandmother's maiden name.  May be just a coincidence but they would have been close neighbours and if your explore that link it might lead you to your grandmother's heritage.  You could always look further in the 1911 census if you are prepared to take out a second mortgage!!!  I would certainly go back to 1891 census and also search BMD for Colchester Griffin's.

Barry

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Holborn Bars
« on: Sunday 15 February 09 20:30 GMT (UK)  »
Yes Ben, I certainly have.  Although much of the topographical content relates to a later period than my ancestors were there, I found the description of life at the time quite thought provoking.  Imagine having to work as a soap boiler at 75, only to die a few months later.   Puts into perspective many of today's issues relating to retirement and pensions.

Barry

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