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Monica,

It's Comiston Road although the 1st part is beyond me?
It may be 144...

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/history/creepy-abandoned-edinburgh-lodge-hid-23166406

Annie

I think there's a typo...

"The son of Alexander Joass and Helen Ross is Walter 1780.
The name Walter Joass repeats a few times in Banffshire.
Walter Joass 1780 had a wee brother who died young in 1764 (the year after both parents died)"

Walter 1780 would've been born after his parents died in 1763?

Annie

Unfortunately I don't have time at present to read through all the 'Joass' threads again & apologise if this has already been mentioned since I looked but I thought it may be of benefit...

There's a lot of info. on NRS online catalogue re the Joass/Jos/Joss families - https://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/search.aspx

A few examples...

GD16/23/42 - 1652-1689...
"Contract of wadset (& legal papers following thereon) between James, Earl of Airlie, with consent of Isobel Hammiltoun, his spouse and James, Lord Ogilvye, his son, on the one part and Thomas Jos in Hiltoun of Blairshinnoch, for himself and on behalf of William, Patrick and James Joss, his second, third and fourth sons, on the other part."


GD198/287 - 1658-1786 - Joass family papers...
"Bundle 1:

1. Testament of Thomas Joass in favour of his son, William, 1666
2. Confirmation of the Joass armorial bearings by Lord Lyon to William Joass, 1679
3. Testament of William Joass, 1711
4. Inhibition by Milne against Ogilvie and related papers, 1657-1659

Bundle 2:

1. Contract of marriage between Alexander Cruickshank and Helen Joass, 1731
2. Testamentary letter of Helen Joass, daughter of George Joass and sister of Major Joass, 1772
3. Release of lands belonging to General Scott by Major Joass for the sum of £1066, 1776

Bundle 3:

1. Decree by the Earls of Findlater and Seafield and Patrick Miln, his tacksman, against George Joass of Colleonare and his tenants, 1743

Bundle 4:

1. Copy of deed of entail for Glasshaugh by General Abercromby amd Captain Abercromby, 1780

Bundle 5:

1. Marriage contract between Elizabeth Abercromby and Major Alexander Joass in Edinburgh, 1767
2. Nomination of subscribers and curators for Mary Joass, his only child, by Major Joass, 1771
3. Bond of provision by Major Joass in favour of Mrs. Joass and Miss Simpson, 1786

Bundle 6: Not held

Bundle 7:

1. Memoir from Major Alexander Joass, 1762
2. Copy opinion for Major Alexander Joass from Alexander Lockhart concerning relief of sundry debts in the case of Lord Banff against Messers Hays, 1762
3. Minutes between Lord Banff and Major Joass concerning the possession of the Banff estate by two apparent heirs successively, 1763
4. Representation for Major Alexander Joass, late of Colleonard concerning Lord Banff's estate after his death, 1764
5. Memorial and queries for Major Alexander Joass, late of Colleonard, with answers regarding Lord Banff's estate after his death, 1764
6. Petition of Major Alexander Joass, late of Colleonard regarding Lord Banff's estate after his death and answer, 1765
7. Back bond from Major Alexander Joass to John Law, lawful heir to Lord Banff, c 1765
8. Account between Lord Banff and Major Joass, 1770.

Plus three small envelopes.

Bundle 5: Some of the contents listed on the bundle wrapper are not contained within the envelope."

GD36/73 - 17 Jan 1759...
"Copy Memorial for Lieutenant Alexander Joass of the Royal Regiment of Foot anent lands and barony of Caleonard in parish and sheriffdom of Banff disponed by him in favour of James, Earl of Findlater and Seafield, with Opinion by John Craigie annexed"

Any of the above would need to be ordered via a researcher e.g. scottishindexes.com or similar.

Annie

It would be an idea to do a timeline with names/dates/places all in one place as there's little info. within your posts to follow with ease.

Annie

I have worked with the DNA. However, no obvious match to this name shows.  I'm sure many of the matches are of her ancestors but many of them are not linked or private.

I have little in the way of matching surnames with DNA matches but by concentrating on the LEEDS Method (among other things) I've managed to fit together a couple of interesting matches & I've managed to link up an adoptee to their mother!

https://www.danaleeds.com/the-leeds-method/

One of my matches (11th highest) on MH, surname unknown to me with a tree with only parents names!
Matching me at 1.1% (78.62 cM) Shared segments 3, Longest segment 51.98 cM
Estimated 3rd cousin which would mean we should share gg g/parents.

I contacted the match who had absolutely no info. beyond the parents (not sure why my match took a DNA test)?

I set to work on finding an index of the marriage to give me a start with date/place as it's too recent to view online...or so I thought!

It was just prior to the cut off date, the couple were both in their teens, fantastic! :-)

Add...There was a bonus, the 2nd marriage of her widowed mother was on the same page!

It turned out the paternal side were possibly Polish or similar & had changed their foreign surname for whatever reason although it doesn't appear to be anglicised as such as it doesn't even begin with the same initial?

I was able from there to search back the maternal line who was my relative whose mother was illegitimate...result within a couple of hours.

It's worth remembering DNA sites can only give a possibility (of which there are many) based on the amount of DNA...

My match turned out to be my 4th cousin rather than my 3rd cousin.


There are sites which also help with DNA matching such as...

https://www.facebook.com/groups/DNADetectives

Establishing matches may help find the answers?

Annie