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Hello,

This is a long shot and I may be barking up completely the wrong tree here, but I have to start somewhere...

My ancestor Joseph NEVILLE married Elizabeth WOODS in Rickmansworth, Hertfordshire, in 1809. Their three children, Mary Ann (my ancestor), William and Ann were also baptised in Rickmansworth (in 1811, 1813 and 1815), but Mary Ann and Ann married in Harefield, Middlesex. (I cannot as yet find a marriage for William, but someone of that name was sentenced to be transported to Australia in 1837, which may be why I can't find one).

FindMyPast (I don't have a subscription) doesn't seem to have a baptism for a Joseph Neville (I'm searching the twenty years either side of 1785) in Hertfordshire, so I'm wondering if there is some kind of family link to Harefield (it seems that Ann, their youngest, was born in Middlesex). If he was from Middlesex, however, I can't seem to find a baptism. Is there something I might be overlooking or somewhere else I can search?

Martin

   I have tried in the past to study Secretariat Hand especially the Scottish variations.   Eventually you just get accustomed to it.

    I found a Guide and Tutorial which I think was from www.sog.org  but it doesn't come up there now.   Fortunately I copied both and could send those pdf pages if anyone wants to study it - just PM me.

    Alternatively there is a bodleian page which shows how some letters were written - http://rycote.bodleian.ox.ac.uk/Palaeography-Guide-alphabet

That would be useful, Malcolm33, I'll PM you.

Thanks, arthurk. Weird how the scrivener capitalised the initial letter of "doinge", but there you go.

Here are the second four: