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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Re: Marriage of Damaris KING (of Chinnor, Oxon) and Thomas CARY (of Bledlow)
« on: Monday 19 October 20 14:32 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your responses, everyone. I guess we can safely say that the two Damarises (Damares?) are two separate people.

Regarding marriage licences, do these show any more information than the indexes and if so, where are they kept?

Martin

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Buckinghamshire Lookup Requests / Marriage of Damaris KING (of Chinnor, Oxon) and Thomas CARY (of Bledlow)
« on: Wednesday 14 October 20 17:54 BST (UK)  »
Hello folks,

This is going to look like it should be in the Oxfordshire lookup requests, but please bear with me.
I have an ancestor, Damaris KING, whose origins I am researching. Damaris, not a common name, so you'd think it'd be fairly easy...

...err, no – there appear to be two of them, both from eastern Oxfordshire (along the border with Bucks). One was baptised in Chinnor in 1671 to Thomas, son of Richard (mother presumed to be Margaret BIGG), the other in South Weston in 1676 to Thomas and Elizabeth. One of them married my ancestor Thomas NEWELL by licence in Hughenden in 1704. One of them also posted a marriage bond in Henton (near Chinnor) in 1698 naming their spouse as a Thomas CARY of Bledlow. Perhaps both marriages were to the same Damaris.

This is what I'm trying to work out, as the more I can find out the better chance I have of working out which Damaris is my ancestor. Oxfordshire FHS can't find any record of a burial for a Thomas CARY in the 1698-1704 date range, so I'm wondering if he did die, whether he was buried in Bucks. Or, alternatively, if he didn't, where he and his Damaris baptised any children (I'm hoping any children's names might give a clue who this Damaris's parents were, and, therefore, allow me to work out which Damaris is mine by eliminating one set of parents).

To this end, would somebody be able to look up the following:

    Burials for a Thomas CARY (including variations) between 1698 and c. 1770?
    Burials for a Damaris CARY (including variations) between 1698 and c. 1770?
    Baptisms of children with the surname CARY (inc. var.) between 1698 and 1730?

Thanks in anticipation

Martin

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Oxfordshire Lookup Requests / Baptism of Damaris KING, c. 1680
« on: Tuesday 06 October 20 23:19 BST (UK)  »
Hello

Would anyone with access to the Oxfordshire parish records be able to search for the baptism of my 7x great-grandmother Damaris KING? When she married my 7x great-grandfather Thomas NEWELL in Hughenden, Bucks in 1704 she was said to be "of Chinnor", but I've no idea if that's where she was baptised. Neither Ancestry nor FindMyPast come up with any baptisms for someone of that name near Chinnor (there is one in 1676 in Weston (possibly Weston-on-the-Green), but this seems a bit too far away from Chinnor), only marriages.

Thanks in anticipation,

Martin

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Buckinghamshire / Re: FARMBOROUGH* of Stone/Hartwell & NEWENS* of (perhaps) Cheddington
« on: Tuesday 06 October 20 22:54 BST (UK)  »
Update:

Got my results on 12 September. I'm not descended from the Farmboroughs, because I'm not descended from Jane Bignal. Oh well...

I did discover some unexpected Scottish, Irish and Norwegian ancsestry, though (no actual names yet), so that's something.

Martin

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Buckinghamshire / Re: FARMBOROUGH* of Stone/Hartwell & NEWENS* of (perhaps) Cheddington
« on: Wednesday 29 April 20 20:27 BST (UK)  »
Just been checking over the baptism records for Elizabeth Turner and now I’m even more confused:

The Elizabeth Turner I assume/assumed was my ancestor was baptised in 1800 in Princes Risborough, the daughter of James and “Jenny” (which at the time was the diminutive of Jane), but I’ve now found another Elizabeth, baptised in 1801 in Great Missenden, but who was born in 1795, also the daughter of a James and a Jane.

I cannot see why the same individual would be baptised in two different years and in two different parishes, so it may be the case that there are two of them, but: on FindMyPast, which I was under the impression had pretty complete parish registers and bishop’s transcripts, there is only one marriage between a James Turner and a Jane (nothing for a Jenny) within a 10-mile radius of Princes Risborough and 10 years either side of 1800...the one between James Turner and Jane Bignal in Great Missenden in 1891. I am now beginning to think that James and “Jenny” and James and Jane née Bignal are two separate couples and that I’m descended from the former, but if so, where is James and “Jenny”’s marriage record?

Another oddity – two of James and “Jenny”’s other children, James and Grace (named after an earlier child, who died some time before 1806), are both baptised in Princes Risborough in around 1820, in their teens.

Hopefully the DNA test I’ve ordered will clear things up, but it’s just as likely it’ll throw up more questions than it answers…

Martin

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Buckinghamshire / Re: FARMBOROUGH* of Stone/Hartwell & NEWENS* of (perhaps) Cheddington
« on: Saturday 25 April 20 17:30 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Vance Mead on Saturday 25 April 20 17:06 BST (UK)
It looks like the family of Farmborough/Farnborough had been living in Stone and Hartwell since the year dot.
 
[...]

Of course, connecting them across 200 years would be a job of work. But there is a good set of manorial records for Stone and Hartwell.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/manor-search

 

It'll be a good thing, then, that someone's already put in the hours!  ;D

I messaged the tree owner yesterday to politely let him know that he'd missed Mary F off, but also to ask what his sources were...I now understand why the tree is a little short on detail – it's because he hasn't had time to add all the minutiæ. Can't say I really blame him, after all, there is rather a lot of information regarding the Farmboroughs and related families...

...1600 pages of it.

Basically, a few decades ago an American descendant of a family called the Delafields commissioned some professional genealogists to research his ancestry, which somehow involves the Farmboroughs et al...so I think it's a safe bet that the tree the tree owner has uploaded is probably as accurate as it can reasonably be expected to be.

Of course, now I'm beginning to doubt myself. What if my purported descent from Mary F (the one who married John Newns/Newens isn't correct? I don't think it's wrong, but what if it is? (I think my mind is basically rebelling against having a bunch of pedigrees and supporting information handed to me on a plate).

If anyone's interested, the book, which is on archive.org, is called "Delafield - The Family History". It's in two (rather large, so might take a while to load) volumes.

Thanks for the help, Steve & Vance.

Martin

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Buckinghamshire / Re: FARMBOROUGH* of Stone/Hartwell & NEWENS* of (perhaps) Cheddington
« on: Friday 24 April 20 11:44 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Vance Mead on Friday 24 April 20 06:14 BST (UK)
There are some wills of Farmborough that might be helpful:

Alice Farmborough, of Stone, widow, 1706
William Farmborough, of Pitchcott, yeoman, 1716

Hi Vance

Where are the wills kept?

Martin

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Buckinghamshire / Re: FARMBOROUGH* of Stone/Hartwell & NEWENS* of (perhaps) Cheddington
« on: Thursday 23 April 20 21:43 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: bucksboy on Thursday 23 April 20 21:22 BST (UK)
Whoa. ;D  Nice to put a face to a name. :)

Ridgely....what a surname to research. So many ways of spelling it. :o

Didn't realise the image was so large...  :o

Yes, I've even seen it spelt "Ridley". Interestingly, nobody I've been in contact with since I started researching my ancestry 20 years ago has been able to get back beyond Daniel Ridgley, who was baptised in Princes Risborough in 1771. Seems they were plonked down by aliens.

I'm particularly interested in the Farmborough line as, as far as I can tell, they have a traceable pedigree going back to the 13th century (due to being one of those families that didn't really stray very far and also had an easily-traceable surname) which, in addition, may link to a gateway ancestor. I have seen a very plausible tree on Ancestry (names, dates and places fit), but they've supplied very few sources. The fact that the tree looks legit (I've seen plenty of ridiculous ones in my time, including one with an individual called "Patty Sue Milk"* on it, who was supposedly born in the 11th century  ;D ;D) would seem to indicate that the chance of the information being true is higher than average, but it'd be nice if I were able to check the sources out for myself... :(

Martin

*possibly the most American name ever.

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Buckinghamshire / Re: FARMBOROUGH* of Stone/Hartwell & NEWENS* of (perhaps) Cheddington
« on: Thursday 23 April 20 21:10 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: bucksboy on Thursday 23 April 20 20:35 BST (UK)
Yes it seems so.  :)

Does Florence Lunnon(1886, Coleshill - 1978), ring any bells. ???

Steve. :)

Behold, Florence Lunnon (my great-grandmother)! (Never met her, sadly, as my dad and I weren’t in contact at the time).

Martin

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