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Tipperary / Re: Any information on Mary or Maria Doolan b c1830
« on: Friday 19 May 17 23:56 BST (UK)  »
Well this search has fired up my need for information on my John Doolan so not to take over this discussion and confuse things I'll continue as a new topic.
Rob

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Tipperary / Re: Any information on Mary or Maria Doolan b c1830
« on: Friday 19 May 17 22:33 BST (UK)  »
Tom
To find the basic death info in Australia for anybody is free and easy. For New South Wales simply Google "NSW BDM" whose link I provided earlier. Then choose "Family History" ... Take a quick read so you know that for privacy and identity theft purposes deaths are only shown to 30 years ago (Births are 100 years ago).
Click "Start Searching"
I've just done a quick search and found a Daniel Doolan that died 1903 in Mudgee aged 65yrs which indicates a birth year of 38 by my quick calculations. (registration No 6865/1903) If that is him you can purchase the full record which may reveal his parents and place of birth.
Now I usually use Google Earth or Maps to take a look around to actually see where places are in relation to each other.

The other place I'd look is "austcemindex.com" but it is mainly a headstone search. A quick look reveals

Doolan Daniel   8 Jul 1965     85   Rookwood Catholic NSW   Lwn 2 1258         
Doolan Daniel   3 Jun 1958  73   Rookwood Catholic NSW   M2 20, 2094

Rookwood is on the other side of my suburb so I could always give you photos.         

Rob

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Tipperary / Re: Any information on Mary or Maria Doolan b c1830
« on: Friday 19 May 17 01:37 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tom
You asked me earlier "where did your Doolans come from? when did they arrive?" which had me double checking my findings.
To this question I have no proof whatsoever so I have been checking.

From the death & marriage records I have no parents names but I can establish a approx birth date of 1831.

From the Assisted Immigrants records I find a John Doolan arrived Sydney on the David McIver 1852 with a recorded age of 20 which indicates a birth year of 1832 so one can presume that I have the correct John Doolan.

My records reveal a birth in London however I have found nothing to support this so for now it is not proven. Looking at the shipping records of the David McIver It departed Liverpool and went to  Plymouth before heading to Australia. 

Unfortunately at present I can not access our Australian "Assisted Immigrants list" to find the image from the actual register (1852 David McIver) to double check things but it could be simply something in my upgrade to Win 10 so possibly somebody else may find his "Native Place" from the record https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/archives/collections-and-research/guides-and-indexes/assisted-immigrants-digital-shipping-lists

I do know they were Catholic and with the name Doolan I expect it will be Ireland.

Rob

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Tipperary / Re: Any information on Mary or Maria Doolan b c1830
« on: Monday 15 May 17 10:35 BST (UK)  »
Oh the errors we make when trying to make haste.
Apart from my typo where I left out the "h" ... I did misread the name as Willoughby which is the name of a suburb not far from here in Sydney.
With hand written text I will have to slow right down and look instead of trusting what the mind wants me to see.
Thank you Maggsie for being on the ball.
I'm still grinning though.
Rob

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Tipperary / Re: Any information on Mary or Maria Doolan b c1830
« on: Monday 15 May 17 01:11 BST (UK)  »
Ship Forest Monarch - Arrived Sydney - 21 Dec 1858
http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?Page=NRS5316/4_4795/Forest%20Monarch_21%20Dec%201858/4_479500393.jpg&No=9
Lists Daniel Doolan
age 23
Farm Labourer
Kings County
Roman Catholic
Can read & write
In the remarks column it has RR like all the others in the list

Ship Star of Brunswick - Arrived Sydney - 18 Dec 1865
http://indexes.records.nsw.gov.au/ebook/list.aspx?Page=NRS5316/4_4789/Star%20of%20Brunswick_18%20Dec%201865/4_478900057.jpg&No=9
Listed as Single females not being members of families

Mary Doolan
Age 25
Domestic Servent
Native Place ... Willougby Kings Co
Roman Catholic
Can read & Write

Catherine Doolan
Age 22
Domestic Servent
Native Place ... Willougby Kings Co
Roman Catholic
Can read & Write

Ellen Doolan
Age 15
Native Place ... Willougby Kings Co
Roman Catholic
Can read & Write

Sorry I could not find where the ships left from on these records

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Tipperary / Re: Any information on Mary or Maria Doolan b c1830
« on: Monday 15 May 17 00:38 BST (UK)  »
Yep ... you possibly have them but there were a few Doolans that settled in Australia including convicts. I've often thought that other family members made their way out here to avoid the famine especially when somebody was already here and writing home (a freed convict).

Amongst the convicts there are 8 Doolans and a couple using the name as an alias so now take a look at https://convictrecords.com.au/

Now I don't know what you know of Australia and convicts so here are some hints. Generally the hardened criminals were sent anywhere else but Sydney (I did say generally)
Van Diemans Land is Hobart Tasmania
Moreton Bay is Brisbane Queensland
Prior to 1851 all the records for Melbourne Victoria are found on the NSW State Records
The online records at NSW State Records can be found at https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/
Births Deaths & Marriages is http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/Pages/family-history/tracing-your-family-tree.aspx
All are free
Rob

 

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Tipperary / Re: Any information on Mary or Maria Doolan b c1830
« on: Sunday 14 May 17 20:28 BST (UK)  »
Okay my Doolans are apparently a generation before yours.

Because of the years I originally thought convicts however I failed to find a match and then found the "David McIver" passenger record where he was an Assisted Immigrant. No doubt it was from this where I found his birthdate and place.

I have learnt not to totally trust the info here as it is there to please any employers or the group bringing them out.

Your Doolans to Sydney are also likely to be Assisted Immigrants so you may find them arriving here by searching here
https://www.records.nsw.gov.au/search_form?id=9

Good Luck
Rob

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Tipperary / Re: Any information on Mary or Maria Doolan b c1830
« on: Sunday 14 May 17 20:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi Tom
The Doolans are my cousins family so I don't really have much on them. My Doolans all settled around Glen Innes on top of the ranges in northern NSW.

Solid info is:
John Doolan 
b. 1831 London, England
d. 20 Nov 1899 Glen Innes, NSW, Australia
m. Quinn, Rosanna 27 Dec 1876 Furracabad, NSW, Australia (Glen Innes)

About Doolan, John
Was a farmer at Furracabad, NSW
Died 1899 Glen Innes aged 68 NSW BDM 13127/1899
Possibly arrived in Sydney on the David McIver 19th May 1852 aged 20 with his brother & sister Mary aged 18 who married John Flinne in 1862 at Scone. Their children are in the name of Flinn.

The David McIver passenger list (Reel 2136, [4/4790] Page 176; Reel 2463, [4/4923]) shows them as:
DOOLAN   John   20
DOOLAN   Mary   18
DOOLAN   William   24
Death Citation
NSW Births Deaths Marriages
(Direct & primary evidence)
Date: 1899
Text: NSW BDM 13127/1899
Marriage (m. Quinn, Rosanna) Citation
NSW Births Deaths Marriages
(Direct & primary evidence)
Date: 1876
Text: NSW BDM 4470/1876

I hope they fit somewhere in with your Doolans
Good luck with your search
Rob

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: Wealthy Daisy Canacott 1901 Census find
« on: Saturday 22 April 17 10:43 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Rob
Interestingly I have a birth date for Mary Ann Canacott as 03 Jun 1861
Christening 12 Jul 1861 St Saviour, Southwalk, London

Is this your family line? ... If so contact Ian B ... Send him a PM .. His comments can be found earlier in this chat. Ian has good info on his side of the family as well as the family in Australia

Regards Rob F

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