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Kent Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Is anyone going to visit Centre for Kentish Studies, Maidstone
« on: Thursday 08 June 06 18:53 BST (UK) »
Have been given required information.
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Sussex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Edenbridge: Does anyone have.......
« on: Thursday 08 June 06 18:52 BST (UK) »
Have been given required information.
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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Highgate Cemetery
« on: Wednesday 07 June 06 11:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish
I don't want to build your hopes up.
Many of London's old cemeteries are in this situation. 'Friends' associations are becoming more widespread. A lot of the cemeteries were in 'private' ownership when they first opened and now 150+ years later, those that haven't deposited their burial records in archives need them to be looked after especially as genealogy is such a popular past-time. The 'Friends' have realised a way of looking after the records and getting something in return for their time and trouble when doing research.
I appreciate that you are living in Australia and would like a photo of the grave. Maybe someone on this forum is a volunteer member and can do the photography for you when you have the grave details. But unless there is a very generous offer from somewhere, you may have to pay the £10 to get the plot details and at the end you may find out from the Friends that there is no headstone marking the plot.
Sorry I can't help out on this one.
Dawn
I don't want to build your hopes up.
Many of London's old cemeteries are in this situation. 'Friends' associations are becoming more widespread. A lot of the cemeteries were in 'private' ownership when they first opened and now 150+ years later, those that haven't deposited their burial records in archives need them to be looked after especially as genealogy is such a popular past-time. The 'Friends' have realised a way of looking after the records and getting something in return for their time and trouble when doing research.
I appreciate that you are living in Australia and would like a photo of the grave. Maybe someone on this forum is a volunteer member and can do the photography for you when you have the grave details. But unless there is a very generous offer from somewhere, you may have to pay the £10 to get the plot details and at the end you may find out from the Friends that there is no headstone marking the plot.
Sorry I can't help out on this one.
Dawn
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Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: Grave Depths (into which I've sunk)
« on: Sunday 04 June 06 18:09 BST (UK) »
Dad says there's an element of truth to being '6 feet under'.
Before a new grave is/was dug, the family buys/bought the plot and tells/told either the cemetery or churchyard how many the grave would be for.
Historically, the depth was manually dug by grave diggers using very long handled spades, 6ft long, so they knew when to stop or carry on. Not particularly accurate though. So a grave for 1 would be 6ft deep, 2 would be 7ft deep, 3 people 8ft etc. This depth allowed for the subsequent interments and for the ground to settle as the lower coffins collapsed. If at a later date a grave for 2 was then required for 3, they had spare room but the shallower top would have been filled and sealed by sand and cement not just earth.
Public graves were very deep as it was in the cemeteries interests to get as many in one hole as they could, 6 coffins deep was not unusual.
Some cemeteries have subsequently run out of space and have created mounds on top of old disused public graves more than 75 years old by adding another 6ft of top soil and starting again.
Dawn
Before a new grave is/was dug, the family buys/bought the plot and tells/told either the cemetery or churchyard how many the grave would be for.
Historically, the depth was manually dug by grave diggers using very long handled spades, 6ft long, so they knew when to stop or carry on. Not particularly accurate though. So a grave for 1 would be 6ft deep, 2 would be 7ft deep, 3 people 8ft etc. This depth allowed for the subsequent interments and for the ground to settle as the lower coffins collapsed. If at a later date a grave for 2 was then required for 3, they had spare room but the shallower top would have been filled and sealed by sand and cement not just earth.
Public graves were very deep as it was in the cemeteries interests to get as many in one hole as they could, 6 coffins deep was not unusual.
Some cemeteries have subsequently run out of space and have created mounds on top of old disused public graves more than 75 years old by adding another 6ft of top soil and starting again.
Dawn
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Graveyards and Gravestones / Re: Grave Depths (into which I've sunk)
« on: Sunday 04 June 06 16:56 BST (UK) »
I'll ask my dad, he's a funeral director and has been for 45 years, I'm sure he'll have some info rattling around that's more useful out of his head than in it. I'll see what he's got to say on the subject.
Dawn
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Dublin / Re: John Sherry born Dublin 1792
« on: Saturday 03 June 06 21:37 BST (UK) »
Hello again Carol
I've been trying to find details of Dublin parishes this afternoon where the churches are old enough for my search. Too many of the churches were built after my GGGG-GF had already established himself in London in the 1820's. (St Johns Sandymount 1850). The other thing I have considered is that he could have been a Protestant, his 5 children were baptised into the Church of England in London in the 1820's.
But thanks for getting back to me.
Dawn
I've been trying to find details of Dublin parishes this afternoon where the churches are old enough for my search. Too many of the churches were built after my GGGG-GF had already established himself in London in the 1820's. (St Johns Sandymount 1850). The other thing I have considered is that he could have been a Protestant, his 5 children were baptised into the Church of England in London in the 1820's.
But thanks for getting back to me.
Dawn
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Dublin / Re: John Sherry born Dublin 1792
« on: Saturday 03 June 06 10:45 BST (UK) »
Hello Carol
You've given me a start point. Thank you.
I look at the London boards on Rootschat and so many people write 'so and so lived in London', it's a huge place and a clue is needed to get things going. The same for Dublin, I suppose.
Likewise with the Sherry surname, it's far from unique. But I have no other clue to his origins apart from 'Dublin' which was taken from the 1851 census.
Thanks again.
Dawn
You've given me a start point. Thank you.
I look at the London boards on Rootschat and so many people write 'so and so lived in London', it's a huge place and a clue is needed to get things going. The same for Dublin, I suppose.
Likewise with the Sherry surname, it's far from unique. But I have no other clue to his origins apart from 'Dublin' which was taken from the 1851 census.
Thanks again.
Dawn
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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Burial 1841 - 1851 George Hardy
« on: Friday 02 June 06 08:25 BST (UK) »
Hello
According to the Tower Hamlets council website...
There are no active cemeteries or crematoria in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets.
Mile End Cemetery closed several years ago. Details of graves within Mile End Cemetery may be obtained by contacting:
The London Metropolitan Archives
40 Northampton Road
London EC1R 0HB
Tel: 020 7332 3820
Hope this helps.
Dawn
According to the Tower Hamlets council website...
There are no active cemeteries or crematoria in the London Borough of Tower Hamlets.
Mile End Cemetery closed several years ago. Details of graves within Mile End Cemetery may be obtained by contacting:
The London Metropolitan Archives
40 Northampton Road
London EC1R 0HB
Tel: 020 7332 3820
Hope this helps.
Dawn
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Surrey Completed Look up Requests / Re: Location of Paddingfold, Ewhurst?
« on: Thursday 01 June 06 09:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Clara
Jane Masri has kindly given us a link to a Surrey Map 1786, its almost at the top of this forum. Padingfold and Padingfold Farm are listed under 'P'. It's right on the Sussex border near to Rudgwick and is 'quite' close to Ewhurst. Coxs Green is there too.
Dawn
Jane Masri has kindly given us a link to a Surrey Map 1786, its almost at the top of this forum. Padingfold and Padingfold Farm are listed under 'P'. It's right on the Sussex border near to Rudgwick and is 'quite' close to Ewhurst. Coxs Green is there too.
Dawn