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Messages - jacqueline cox

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I'm lazy, too, like the people who hijacked my 3 x great gran! i don't think you could find more by looking at the image than I have now found in  Findmypast transcrips - no images. The pair, bacheloor and spinster, married at St Peter and Paul, witnesses Hannah Ellis and Mary Revill.

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That should have read "several people in public trees ...", sorry.

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Nottinghamshire Lookup Requests / Mary Orange married William Smith Mansfield 28.4.1833
« on: Saturday 08 February 20 13:29 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Rootschatters,in Ancestry have borrowed my Cockney 3 x great grandmother Mary Orange, (baptised Mary Sophia Orange Jan 1805 St Leonards Shoreditch) common law partner of James SBy this time my 3 x great grandmother was calling herself Sweeting, but officially she was wife or widow of William Grant whom she married in Whitechapel in 1826. Her father Joseph and sister Kitty were witnesses. In 1832, James witnesed the marriage of Mary's sister Rachel with her father Joseph. These events all tie up with witnesses, evidence that she stayed in London till 1857.

I can find no reason, except it is easy, why people have moved my Mary (born in Markham, Notts, evidence -1851 census) to Notts to marry as Orange, not Grant, in 1833. I can find the reference to this marriage only in Family Search, date and "Mansfield" but no further information as to the actual location. Can anyone help me by following this marriage up so the mother of William's children - 1839 Hannah -, George 1841, Charlotte 1847, Mary (Cox, according to GRO birth indexes) can be correctly identified in their trees?. (Possibility: he may have had a further marriage to Mary Cox before 1839 birth of Hannah, and been married to 2 Marys ...).



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Yes, thank you all. I have now identified said Hodgson as my 4th (1/2) cousin.

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Thanks so much, barryd and Boo. I think Barrys find in Sunderland is not going to be an alternative; my Asselbrough/ Brown marriage took place in Whitburn St Mary. Thank,you boo for your looking up locations. I can follow up your advice if other methods fail.

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I owe you an explanation for my query. Some couple of years ago, my mother's DNA test threw up unmistakable evidence of a NEP event. I had literally dozens of Cunningham matches in Ancestry and a couple in Gedmatch with no Cunninghams in my tree. My c19th tree is firmly backed with evidence so one of my ancestors was "not their father's child". The Cuckoo parent was Cunningham of South Shields and Deptford. Both localities were in my existing tree so the common person was apparently James Fairweather Cunningham from SS who spent some 10 years in the naval dockyards in the Deptford area or possibly his father John who stayed put in SS. As a result, I retested with MyHeritage (so now FTdna, Ancestry, Livingdna, MyH, all also in Gedmatch)
Recently I got yet another closeish match - 112 cM - in MyH, but the inactive person concerned had only 5 names and a couple of dates in their abbreviated tree. If names are sufficiently distinctive, I am experienced enough to be able to create their trees pretty accurately especially if it is not too many generations. In this case Thomas Sidney Hodgson (mother Parker) born in 1916 married a female Brown whose mother was Sarah Asselborough. Sarah's father appears to be Francis. I knew the DNA match was Cunningham and their action generally took place from South Shields to Sunderland.
So Boo's question is a good one. In order to track back to my Cunningham connection, I need to know the name of Sarah's father-in-law Brown. If her husband was Francis, one possible is John Brown born in 1858, and another, George Brown 1861 who was the son of Mary Robson Cunningham, sister of James Fairweather Cunningham. George had a brother called Francis Cunningham Brown....
So it is detective work which will find my exact relationship to my mother's new Hodgson 122 cM cousin with a common Cunningham ancestor that I am involved in.
Rootschat is full of fellow puzzle solvers .... if it were my own ancestor, I would happily pay, but I am not wealthy enough to pay for images to prove my relationship to so many Cunningham cousins!
PS I remember my great grandmother, the Cunningham cuckoo born in 1866 pushing me, aged 2.5 in my push chair in King's Cross Station in 1844 while evacuating from the V2s, but she thought her maiden name was Hurrion!

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I'm only hoping for someone who'd be going anyway. I'm grateful for anything that people can do if they are heading that way!

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Unfortunately his mother Lapier was born in Halifax Nova Scotia and her first child was born there. I'm not sure  about the marriage; work in progress....

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And now, since I live in Cheshire, is there anyone going to Durham CRO in the near future who could very kindly do a look up for me? It is the groom's father's name I need. Brown - I ask you!
If no one is, it'll have to be £5 ....

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