1828
Armed Forces / Re: Missing piece of the puzzle- Theophilus Jones
« on: Wednesday 09 January 08 15:21 GMT (UK) »
PLY/2619. Is that a division number?
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1829
The Lighter Side / Re: Oldest and Youngest Rootschatters
« on: Wednesday 09 January 08 15:16 GMT (UK) »
You were nearly the undesputed eldest then, Sueky!
I'm 19
I'm 19
1830
The Lighter Side / Re: What are the chances of that?
« on: Wednesday 09 January 08 15:15 GMT (UK) »
It's just a pity I haven't had as much luck googling "Jones" 
1831
Armed Forces / Re: Missing piece of the puzzle- Theophilus Jones
« on: Wednesday 09 January 08 15:07 GMT (UK) »
The only census I have is a photocopied sheet I got off someone else, no I didn't know about over the page! Could I ask her name? (And the lodger?)Will check the links in a moment, thanks!
1832
The Lighter Side / Re: What are the chances of that?
« on: Monday 07 January 08 15:54 GMT (UK) »
I believe there were a few in my family born in Gwithian. The website is http://www.miketree.co.uk/trewartha/surnlist.htm They won't be interested in non-Trewartha lines, I'm afraid (I'm not on there because she married into a different family) but I would be interested if there is a match! Go to Roger Trewartha/Barkache/Androwartha and his grandson Philip, I'm told, is the "Proto-Andrewartha". If Elias is his name, I don't recognise it on the tree. If you have parents for him, they might be on there somewhere.
1833
The Lighter Side / What are the chances of that?
« on: Monday 07 January 08 15:02 GMT (UK) »
There's one side of my family tree where I have been insanely lucky. I'm descended from a man called Roger Barkache (or Trewartha... or Andrewartha... depending on what his fancy was at the time...) and when I googled "Trewartha", I found an entire family tree on the internet for the Trewartha family, including my ancestors! Anyhoo, all that lot were in Cornwall, and they branched off to Australia and America. I was in correspondance with a couple who are in charge of the site and I live over the other side of the country from all this in a very small and boring town. It was only after I found them in the family tree that I found out... of all the places in the world, this couple actually got married in the church next to my house! What are the chances of that?? 
1834
Armed Forces / Missing piece of the puzzle- Theophilus Jones
« on: Monday 07 January 08 14:47 GMT (UK) »
One of the big gaps in the life of my G-g-grandfather was his military career.
He was born c.1863 near Carmarthen, Wales. I think he was still there in 1881, aged 18. Between 1881 and 1888, he moved the Plymouth, Devon, presumably to join up. He was in the Royal Marines (some sources say "RMLI" (Royal Marines Light Infantry) and one says "RMFS" (I think the person couldn't read it- I've looked at the original and the person who wrote it had the most awful handwriting) At the time of his son's birth (1890) he was a private and in the census 6 months later, he was a Lance Corporal. In 1901, he was a sergeant and he died (1916, East Stonehouse, Plymouth) with that rank, although his death certificate, as far as we can make out, says "Mess Steward". He was buried in Plymouth Old Cemetary (Pennycomequick).
I have no idea how to actually get his records. One of my relatives got hold of another family military record, but I can't get in contact with her. I hope someone can help...
P.S He died aged 52 and remained in Royal Marine barracks with his family until his death. We don't know when his wife died, but every record has her living in the barracks with him. Durnford Street rings a bell, as does "Valletort Buildings".
He was born c.1863 near Carmarthen, Wales. I think he was still there in 1881, aged 18. Between 1881 and 1888, he moved the Plymouth, Devon, presumably to join up. He was in the Royal Marines (some sources say "RMLI" (Royal Marines Light Infantry) and one says "RMFS" (I think the person couldn't read it- I've looked at the original and the person who wrote it had the most awful handwriting) At the time of his son's birth (1890) he was a private and in the census 6 months later, he was a Lance Corporal. In 1901, he was a sergeant and he died (1916, East Stonehouse, Plymouth) with that rank, although his death certificate, as far as we can make out, says "Mess Steward". He was buried in Plymouth Old Cemetary (Pennycomequick).
I have no idea how to actually get his records. One of my relatives got hold of another family military record, but I can't get in contact with her. I hope someone can help...
P.S He died aged 52 and remained in Royal Marine barracks with his family until his death. We don't know when his wife died, but every record has her living in the barracks with him. Durnford Street rings a bell, as does "Valletort Buildings".
1835
Carmarthenshire / Re: Elusive g-g-grandfather
« on: Monday 07 January 08 14:40 GMT (UK) »
We have the birth certificate of his son Walter (my g-grandfather) dated 1890 (father Theophilus Jones, mother Elizabeth Jane Jones, formerly Uglow). He was in East Stonehouse, Plymouth on the 1891 census with wife, stepdaughter (Annie Lititia Walker), daughter Elizabeth Ann and son Walter. He is in the same place in 1901 with Walter and daughter Esther Mary (I can't remember if the older daughter is there, but Annie has gone). Annie was born in Kent in 1881 and Elizabeth was 1888 so I presume they were married between those two dates (although not necessarily...) I found A Theophilus in Carmarthen St Peter in 1881 (aged 18) and I just have a feeling about him. That's the one who was supposed to have been born in Llanfihangel Aereddia. I can't confirm that he is the right one, of course, but he was the most likely candidate of all the records I found in the 1881 census (we have disks from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints).
Cas, the one with father Walter would make sense if he called his son Walter... That was quite a common thing. I think 1867 would be far too late. 1865 is possible, but something about it doesn't strike with me. On his death record (military, 1916) his age is given as 52, if I recall correctly. I reckon he hadn't had his birthday yet when he died. I favour 1863, although that could just be myself leading me the wrong way
I'll go to the military board now. Thanks!
Cas, the one with father Walter would make sense if he called his son Walter... That was quite a common thing. I think 1867 would be far too late. 1865 is possible, but something about it doesn't strike with me. On his death record (military, 1916) his age is given as 52, if I recall correctly. I reckon he hadn't had his birthday yet when he died. I favour 1863, although that could just be myself leading me the wrong way
I'll go to the military board now. Thanks!
1836
Carmarthenshire / Elusive g-g-grandfather
« on: Friday 04 January 08 16:05 GMT (UK) »
I'm having some trouble tracking down one Theophilus Jones. On two censuses (Plymouth), he is written as having been born in Carmarthen Llanfrengal. After discussing this with some Welsh people, we thought it might be a misspelling/Anglicisation (is that a word?) of Llanfihangel in Carmarthenshire. Unfortunately that has brought me no closer. The census before puts his birth place, if it is him, as Llanfihangel Aereddia (which we thought might be a misspelling of Llanfihangel-ar-Arth?) and I found an entry on a website, about the right time and place, for Llanfihangel Abercowen.
Someone recommended this site to me. I didn't know if anyone could help or give me any advice on this... I think he was born in 1863 (the website put it at 3 qr 1863, which would be about right) and I'm trying to track his military records to find out when he moved from Wales to Devon, but I don't know how to get those either (has anyone else managed it?)
Thanks...
Someone recommended this site to me. I didn't know if anyone could help or give me any advice on this... I think he was born in 1863 (the website put it at 3 qr 1863, which would be about right) and I'm trying to track his military records to find out when he moved from Wales to Devon, but I don't know how to get those either (has anyone else managed it?)
Thanks...