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Anna
the story of ellen Margaret Hollingsworth is born 1860 to Thomas r hollingsworth and isabella she is on the 1861 1871 1881 census, she wed William Custance Meadwell and they had 8 children apparently william left Ellen (not sure how true that is) she then weds Frederick Joseph Morant Jones in 1911 in Edmonton. I have a page from a dairy that states her and fred had a boarding house and that they were a happy fun loving family and that they were spiritulists. Ellen died in 1920.
Noe elizabeth Hollingsworth appears in 1841 St Clement danes and 1851 census St pancras then she missing in the 1861 census there is just Catherine het mother and catherine her sister then shes back in the 1871 census with mother and sister in St george London then thats the last that she is heard of.

Jan

Hi Anna
Through your brilliant work i have found the births of Alice and Eliza the two other children of Thomas Hollingswowrth and Eliza again their names were Hollingsworth walker. Now Sarah Eliza (Smith) must have been Walker so now its finding a birth for her. i have found one Eliza Walker born 1839 City of London (i Wonder) Many Many Thanks Anna.

Jan

Well Darren

I thought that about the colour of his eyes but hay ho. I have just ordered the birth cert so in about 10 days we shall see.

Fron the courtesy of the  always full glass of Vodka society

                                           

Hi Darren

At last you are back. Hope all is well. Did you get the Playbills i emailed you.

Yes i also think that Robert Smith and Thomas Richey are the same person. But who is the mother.? It would mean that our Grt Grandad had i fling with someone else while he was with Sarah Eliza as Bertha was born after Robert "Smith" and we know that Bertha was the daughter of Eliza Smith and Tom Hollingsworth. My god how confussing.
I wonder if there is anyone out there who knows any different.

I so wish we could solve this once and for all.

Bye for now Coz.

Jan