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Donegal / O'Donnell in Donegal
« on: Tuesday 24 January 12 04:07 GMT (UK)  »
Hello
I'm trying to find anything on a Matthew O'DONNELL and wife Elizabeth - Marriage, deaths, anything -

Their daughter Sarah was born circa 1800/1815 -
Sarah married circa 1830/35 in Ireland and her birth is a guess going by immigration records which aren't always accurate, her age in 1854 was given as 39 - Her husband was born circa 1806 - both in Donegal - Also on her immigration records, her parents Matthew & Elizabeth O'Donnell - it looks like they were still living in 1854 - (Sarah's husband George CLENDINNING, has his parents[William & Fanny] but with 'both deceased' - Sarah's doesn't state that)

According to some writings written while they were still living; " the Clendinnings lived in the town of Pettego,which is mainly in the County Fermanagh, but extends across the Mill Stream into Donegal. The Clendinning family lived on the Donegal side in "the first house across the Mill Stream." 

I have found something from the Griffith valuation which looks like it might be Elizabeth O'DONNELL - mother of Sarah -
this was for 1857 - an Elizabeth O'Donnell was living at: Mill Street,Pettigoe         Templecarn     Donegal

I am hoping some one can help with this O'DONNELL family -

Many thanks from an O'DONNELL descendant in Australia

FA
(Char)

38
Lancashire / Re: How to find a missing ancestor??
« on: Sunday 22 January 12 06:43 GMT (UK)  »
Just to update:
I've found the burial of Levi LANGFORD !!
In Cheshire Parish burials
Burial 13th June 1866 Parish of Willaston (near Great Neston) aged 27 -
This is where Levi was living with his mother in the 1861 census - His mother continued to live in that area until her own death -

Many thanks for all advice

FA
(Char)



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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Travelling to London 1830s query?
« on: Sunday 22 January 12 06:23 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you everyone for your advice, input and help -

One can't help but feel great admiration for the peoples of those times and whether my lot walked, caught a train, carriage or all three will probably remain a mystery - But they did it and boarded the ship bound for Australia and a new life, whether it turned out to be a better life is an open question, I would hope their lives were in some fashion improved -
(My GGG-Grandmother - Ellen LAWS born c.1827 Rockbourne Hampshire,  lived into her 90s and died in Goulburn NSW Australia, after 85 years in 'the colonies') -

Many thanks

Char
(FA)

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Travelling to London 1830s query?
« on: Friday 20 January 12 08:22 GMT (UK)  »
Did the ship call at Plymouth  (in Devon) on the outbound voyage?

I wonder if they might have travelled in that direction and embarked at the last port of call.

If they went eastwards, then from Hampshire they probably would have gone through Surrey before reaching London.  If they went west and embarked in the west country, then Dorset and Devon are possibilities.

It might have taken in excess of three months to reach Australia.  Might the infant who died have been born during the voyage?

Nell

Hello Nell
I don't know if the last port before departure was Plymouth, but makes sense I guess - why go all the way to London if they could jump on at Plymouth -

What mode of transport would they have used? Would they hire a carriage? or was there a train from Hampshire to either London or Plymouth?  How much would a journey like that cost a family of 6? What would the journey to Australia have cost them, I wonder? My feeling is that they were fairly poor - 
 I can't imagine them walking all that way with small children, and the Mum may have been pregnant or with a baby - And yes it's possible the bub was born on the journey - There was no mention of it but it's still a possibility -
I have other ancestors that came from England, Ireland and Scotland, but know pretty much the circumstances of their trials, troubles, journeys of most of them - My Hampshire family is my earliest so far - 1834 -  I am curious as to their struggles and general life in England and also wonder why they decided to come to Australia -
Guess I'll never know that one, but Family History is more than just numbers and dates -

Kind Regards
Charmaine
(FA)

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Travelling to London 1830s query?
« on: Thursday 19 January 12 04:17 GMT (UK)  »
Hello
Please excuse my ignorance on the following query -
How did people travel in the 1830s?
I have ancestors that must have gone from Rockbourne in Hampshire to London, whence they departed to Australia -
I am assuming the family to be a poorish one, and can't help but wonder how they got to London -
I have children born to them in Rockbourne and the shipping records show all of them, but there is mention of an infant dying during the voyage -
What counties would they have crossed to get to London - trying to find a baptism of a child born to them outside of Hampshire close to their departure date to Australia which was June 1834 - arrival was Nov 1834 - 
Some wonderful lookeruppers here found their arrival in Australia in a number of records/databases - Are there English records for departing emigrants?

Many thanks in advance

FA
(Char)

42
Australia / Re: immigration links to search help please
« on: Tuesday 17 January 12 09:38 GMT (UK)  »
I actually had saved the passenger list a long time ago so I needed to find it again on the net & here it is:

http://www.immigrantships.net/1800/james341117.html

They also they appear in another newspaper notice which states their name as LAWES & that they had five children but one an infant died on the voyage:

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/page/4252391?zoomLevel=5

Many many thanks Merlin - I very much appreciate your help and the links -

Kind Regards
Charmaine
FA

43
Australia / Re: immigration links to search help please
« on: Tuesday 17 January 12 03:03 GMT (UK)  »
Steerage Passengers - 1834 'James' to Port Jackson 17/11/1834.

Surname reads a LAWES on the passenger list:

Lawes, William 46yrs England Farmer
Lawes, Jane 35yrs England Wife
Lawes, James 12yrs England
Lawes, Elizabeth 9yrs England
Lawes, Ellen 7yrs England
Lawes, George 4yrs England


Thank you so much MERLIN !! Such Wonderful, wonderful people here at Rootschat!! I have been searching, on and off, for years for this family's arrival in Australia - and here we are after only a few days from my post here !! and there we have them!! Great work and I thank you all - Judith, Jorose and Merlin ! - And I think this is proof almost positive that my family is the same as the gentleman from ancestry -
(I'm hoping Merlin can give me a source html if possible or just the site name would be great ? )
Kindest Regards
FindingAncestors
(Charmaine)

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Australia / Re: immigration links to search help please
« on: Monday 16 January 12 11:53 GMT (UK)  »
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/12850910?searchTerm=%22William%20Laws%22
 - possibly here? On the ship James, from London, in 1834.
Mr William Lawe, farmer, Mrs Jane Lawe, James, Elizabeth, Jane, Ellen, and George Lawe.

BINGO!!! Jorose!! That has got to be them!! Wow! thank you so much!
Could I ask what search term you used? I tried Trove but way too many variants came up -
Thanking you again Jorose - wonderful detective work!  ;D

Kind Regards
Charmaine

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Australia / Re: immigration links to search help please
« on: Monday 16 January 12 11:49 GMT (UK)  »
Hmm

It would seem to me that there are so many co-incidences that it is a 95% bet that they are from the same family.  :D  Would be nice to know for sure, though.

If you let me have the date of Ellen's death I can have a look at the Goulburn paper for an obit for her.  Some country newspapers have excellent obits with lots of family information while others give very little.  Worth a try though.  I will probably be at the National Library later in the week.

Judith

Hello Judith -
That would be wonderful of you! Especially if something was written -
According to the death cert: Ellen died as: Ellen MUNOZ on the 18th Feb 1919 at Goulburn District Hospital - aged 98 -  buried 20th Feb -- Church of England (old cemetery) Goulburn

Thank you for your generous offer of help
 
Kind Regards
Char
FA

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