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Hello Jonathan and Leo

Sorry Jonathan I didn’t receive a notification of your reply to my recent message a few days ago, I only received a notification this morning when Leo replied.

I would love a copy of Ann’s Will and will send you a PM with my email address as you have only made one post and so cannot PM anyone at the moment. I did finish the Will but lost a lot of my work a few years ago when I had a major PC crash. Luckily I saved the Will to my tree on Ancestry so all is not lost. I would also love to see your work on the family.

Leo, I haven’t done very much on this family at all as there are so few records at this time and so cannot connect your Elizabeth to my tree.

My 13x great grandfather was William Dwarihouse (senior) whose wife I have not found. He had the following children all baptised at St Andrew’s Church, Bebington.

Ann baptised 5 Oct 1582, buried 26 Nov 1602
John baptised 13 Nov 1584 (died before 1593)
Mary/Maria baptised 7 Mar 1586/7
Thomas baptised 12 Jan 1588/9, buried 22 Jan 1588/9
Margaret baptised 1 Apr 1590 (married William Wilson 18 Jun 1611) had son John Wilson born in 1632 John is mentioned in the PCC Will. Margaret was buried 20 Jun 1634.
John baptised 28 Jan 1592/3, buried 17 Feb 1592/3
Twins Alice & Margery (Margery is my 12x great grandmother) baptised 12 May 1594. Margery married John Sparke 4 Nov 1617 and had a son Thomas Sparke (my 11x great grandfather) about 1618 who is the nephew of William Dwarihouse as mentioned in the PCC Will. Margery was buried 29 Apr 1635.
Elizabeth baptised 8 Sep 1597 and possibly died in Ireland as per the PCC Will
And then there is William (junior) who I don’t have a baptism for, but it is his PCC Will.

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry removing matches less than 8cM
« on: Monday 20 July 20 13:09 BST (UK)  »

Did you have you any just below an integer. e.g 19.9 ? If so, were they rounded up to 20 or just dec places just chopped so they would become 19?

Actually, I've just done some further checking and it is a worry, I do have a 19.7cM which is rounded up to 20cM so we may lose some of the 8cMs.

ADDED: a 19.4cM has been rounded down to 19cM

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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Ancestry removing matches less than 8cM
« on: Monday 20 July 20 12:16 BST (UK)  »
On facebook maths problems - posters always moan about 'old' maths and 'new' maths, and the rules involved (Podemas - the rules of operations etc), and those who know maths of course say maths is maths ( or math, if you are american), and there only ever is one right answer, which ever way, and whenever,  you learned maths!  However, Ancestry seems to have its own wee version here!

Honestly, I remember back a few itterations ago of the DNA screens ,when on a screen that told you about a matches DNA in more detail, it told you more exactly  the match figure (eg 19.5). and the dependability of the match (eg high/low/medium), and what that meant (eg nearly 100% likely to be a true match).  Not all changes have been for the better!  Especially when at one time it is under a border line (eg 20), but sometimes over it. Crazy.

How can a value measured to be under 8.0* be classed at other times as 8 or over 8!

* indcating 'recurring', that is as many 0's as you like!!

Ah well back to checking my 8's now.  I an happy (relatively) with 7's, but decided to deal with 8's before tackling 6's, as there will be even more 6's..... Ahh

Jane

I keep a record of my matches on a spreadsheet when I know how they are related from back when Ancestry included decimal places.

I have a 4C1R (PV) who matches me at 20.1cM and is included in my 4th-6th cousins but now shows just as 20cM, whereas another 4C1R, MS matches me at exactly 20cM and is included in my distant cousins.

Therefore, the when Ancestry delete those who match 6-7cM any at 8cM should remain as they would actually match 8.1cM or more, whereas those who are 6-7cM would only match up to 7cM exactly.

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And if the common ancestor is a 5th great then the direct relationship is a 6th cousin.

Yes, as stated in my previous post "If a match is the same generation as you then the most distant relationship would be sixth cousins".

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Common Ancestors and ThruLines only show matches up to your 5x great grandparents. If you have a match that is 5C2R it won't show in Common Ancestors or ThruLines because it is too many generations.

Matches that are descended from 5th greats would likely be 6th cousins not 5th.

I've just checked my listings and I have matches that are between 5C1R and the last ones are 6th cousins.

PS - I've even got a half 5C on the list  (so they say)

If a match is the same generation as you then the most distant relationship would be sixth cousins. My post didn't mention 5th or 6th cousins, I said matches only go as far as 5th great grandparents.

I have a 5x great grandfather who I share with 16 matches but there only two are 6th cousins, the rest are more closely related.

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Yes it is a nuisance. I have a few in exactly the same situation as you.

Gail

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But your 4x great grandparents would be your 5C2Rs 6x great grandparents.

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