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Suffolk / Re: Sarah Elizabeth KEMP
« on: Thursday 14 April 22 11:08 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone know Robert's date of death/burial?
And did he leave a Will?

The will of malster Robert Kemp of Chevington was proved in the Sudbury Archdeaconry court in 1805 (Suffolk Archives).

An abstract (IR 26/391/189) can be downloaded from TNA.

David

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Welcome to RootsChat

Yeoman William Stafford of Gislingham made a will in 1632 leaving a mill and other items to his son-in-law Richard Johnson, the executor, who was then living in Bricett. A son-in-law in those days could have been a step-son rather than a daughter's husband, who might well have been called a son. The will also mentions William's wife Elizabeth and daughters Margaret Barker and Katherine Maninge. (Wills of the Archdeaconry of Sudbury, 1630-1635, Nesta Evans for Suffolk Records Society, 1987, abstract 449, pages 187-8)

David

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Suffolk / Re: Eliza DEVEREUX b.1794 d.1853 Norfolk
« on: Sunday 20 March 22 12:08 GMT (UK)  »
Eliza DEVEREUX married Samuel CARMAN by banns in 1816 at Redenhall with Harleston and Wortwell, Norfolk (FamilySearch).

The will of William DEVEREUX (or DEVEREOUX, as catalogued at Suffolk Archives), was proved in Suffolk Archdeaconry's probate court in 1811. An abstract made for the administration of death duty is currently downloadable free of charge from TNA (here). It refers to property in Bury St Edmunds and Beccles. Eight children are named: William, John, Joseph, Benjamin, Elizabeth, Mary, Charlotte and Eliza. Most of them were baptized at Beccles between 1777 and 1794, their mother Elizabeth's maiden name (ELLIS) being noted from 1784. Eliza (born 7 July 1794) was baptized again at Redenhall with Harleston and Wortwell in 1813 (FreeREG + FamilySearch).

William DEVEREUX married Elizabeth ELLIS at Weston in 1772. His burial on 12 September 1810 is recorded in the parish registers of both Worlingham and Beccles, the latter with the surname DEVEREAUX and the same date of death (8 September) as a gravestone at Worlingham (Suffolk FHS transcripts). Aged 64, he would have been born c.1746, if not in Suffolk then perhaps in Norfolk, which the 1841 census appears to give as the county of birth for Elizabeth DEVEREUX of Mendham Lane, Redenhall with Harleston. She was not buried there (FamilySearch) nor at Beccles, the only town mentioned in the announcement of her death in The Norfolk News on 31 May 1845:
 
On Friday, May 23rd, Mrs. Elizabeth Devereux, relict of Mr. William Devereux, Castle farm, Beccles, aged 95 years.

David

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Hi Emma

A copy of James Debenham's will would cost much less than a marriage certificate and could help to establish William's connection.

The probate service website has not been improved by a recent "upgrade" so you may have to search for DE BANK rather than DEBENHAM in 1870 to see page 110 and an order form.

David

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Suffolk / Re: Otley Goldsmith family
« on: Wednesday 16 March 22 12:57 GMT (UK)  »
Could anyone please help with a baptism record for John ? There was a parish Church and a very well supported Baptist Chapel in Otley and given that he is buried in a Non-conformist Cemetery  there is a likelihood that he was baptised at the Chapel.

Images of Otley Baptist Chapel's register of births, 1800-1836 (RG 4/1856) are available in Ancestry's collection of England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1936 but no Goldsmith births are indexed there, nor in Miss E. Pyatt's index to that register, published on pages 27 & 28 in the April 1982 issue of the Suffolk Genealogy Society's journal, Suffolk Roots (now accessible online by members of the Suffolk Family History Society).

John Goldsmith, son of Bet (Suffolk FHS transcript) or Betty (FamilySearch), was baptized in 1816 at Cretingham, one of the parishes adjacent to Otley (see FamilySearch's interactive map, England Jurisdictions 1851). If his mother married when he was a boy, John may have used his step-father's surname for a while.

David

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Suffolk / Re: Bacon family, Coddenham and Barham
« on: Thursday 03 March 22 11:18 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Craig

Extracts from the parish registers of Barham and Coddenham relating to the Bacons of Shrubland Hall were published in The East Anglian; or Notes and Queries, News Series, vol. 4 (1891-92, pages 32-35), now online at the Internet Archive.

There are references to these and many more obscure sources in the first volume of Copinger's history of the County of Suffolk (1904), particularly on page 74.

You may also want to download modern transcripts made by the Suffolk FHS, e.g. Suffolk Baptism Index: Bosmere & Claydon Deaneries 1650-1753. The Suffolk Burial Index confirms that Lionel Bacon (son of Nicholas and Dorothy) was buried at Coddenham on 21 February, giving the New Style year 1736 instead of 1735 or 1735/36. In 1738 it has Philip rather than Phillip.

David

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Suffolk / Re: John Nance Gooch, 1770, and his sisters
« on: Wednesday 15 December 21 21:27 GMT (UK)  »
As shown in my charts, George Button mentions two men named Caesar Thomas Gooch: an attorney at Diss (1707-1757) and his son, the vicar of Brundish (1743-1829).

Suffolk FHS marriage transcripts locate Edward Gooch & Elizabeth Button at Brundish on 7 July 1835 and John "Vance" Gooch & Elizabeth Button at Worlingworth on 30 December 1794.

FamilySearch has images of John Nance Gooch's Norwich Consistory Court marriage licence bond and allegation dated 29 December 1794. His fellow bondsman was Samuel Button of Brundish, suggesting that Elizabeth might have belonged to the same family, despite the assertion on pages 5 and 17 of George Button's notes that she was "no relation to us", but John's sister Dorothy Lucy Gooch had married Samuel Button in 1783.

The death of Elizabeth, wife of John "Rance" Gooch of Brundish Hall, on 13 July 1842 was announced in the Suffolk Chronicle three days later. Her age was said to be 70. If she was baptized at Worlingworth on 21 January 1774, her parents were Robert & Elizabeth, who may have married at Saxtead in 1771 (Robert Button of Earl Soham & Elizabeth Ashford). Perhaps coincidentally, the will of John Nance Gooch of Brundish Hall (probate 1849) is catalogued at Suffolk Archives with his home as Saxted (Saxtead).

David

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Suffolk / Re: John Nance Gooch, 1770, and his sisters
« on: Thursday 09 December 21 20:41 GMT (UK)  »
Shortly before her death in 1979, Dorothy Lucy Wainwright (Dor) sent me some details of our Gooch and Button relatives. Copies can be downloaded from my Dropbox folder (here) along with a typescript version of George Button's family history, which she had lent me a few years earlier. Unfortunately, there seems to be no mention of quilting.

Dor's lists of birthdays include John Nance Gooch, born 12 Oct. 1769. Her mother, Celia Mary Rope, was a daughter of my great-great grandfather's brother William Gobbitt and Jane Elizabeth née Garrard of Sudbourne. Jane's mother (b. 1798) was Celia or Cecelia, a daughter of Samuel Button and Dorothy Lucy Gooch (sister of John Nance Gooch).

My own notes are no neater than Dor's but they may be useful for analysis of George Button's 19 pages. Squeezed in at the foot of my third chart, he was probably George Tinline Button of Oxford (d. 1961).

David

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Suffolk / Re: Warings of Edwardstone/Groton, Suffolk
« on: Sunday 05 December 21 13:00 GMT (UK)  »
The attached article was written in 1932 by Charles Partridge of Stowmarket, the original editor of East Anglian Miscellany. His Waring file at the Suffolk Record Office (HD4084/336) may include a few more details.

David

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