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8425
South Africa / Re: Trying to obtain information on my grandmother.
« on: Tuesday 28 March 17 17:12 BST (UK)  »
I would recommend that you obtain a copy of John David's Estate papers from 1965 - after all he is your grandfather, and not a distant relation.  :)  It could be money well-invested  ;)

8426
South Africa / Re: Trying to obtain information on my grandmother.
« on: Tuesday 28 March 17 16:54 BST (UK)  »
This may give you some information related to John, the film star.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0398323/

8427
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Tuesday 28 March 17 16:51 BST (UK)  »
Perhaps you do need to purchase Lucy's birth certificate to confirm or refute our assumptions.  I'm assuming that it is still your aim to ascertain her parentage.  I can't readily see a baptism for her, certainly via the Church of England records available on FindMyPast and Ancestry.


8428
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Tuesday 28 March 17 08:12 BST (UK)  »
Found her!

Burial - Howden - 16 July 1850 - Rachel wife of Mark Nutbrowne - 36
Burial - Howden - 16 July 1850 - David son of Mark Nutbrowne - infant

How sad!  :'( :'(

8429
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Tuesday 28 March 17 07:52 BST (UK)  »
A little bit more for you:

Burial - Howden - 30 July 1848 - George Holmes aged 33

Marriage - Howden - 9 September 1849
Mark Nutbrown, full age, widower, Husbandman of Howden.  Father:  Mark, Shoemaker
Rachel Holmes, full age, widow of Howden.  Father: William, Labourer

1851 Census - HO107 2358 folio 273, page 16
Hailgate, Howden
Mark Nutbrown - 46, widower - Ag Lab
Ann Nutbrown - 20 - daughter
plus housekeeper with her children

I can't see Rachel in 1851, nor can I see a death in England and Wales prior to 1851 census!

8430
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 20:36 BST (UK)  »
Let's hope that I am right  :)

8431
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 18:10 BST (UK)  »
Hey!!!!  ;)

Marriage - Howden - 25 November 1843 - by Banns
George Holmes, full age, widower, Labourer.  Father:  ------
Rachel Holmes, full age, spinster.  Father:  William, Labourer

So:  Martha was Rachel's child before marriage.  William, Solomon and probably Ann, after marriage.

 :D :D

8432
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 17:49 BST (UK)  »
Could this be William:

Marriage at Howden - 12 August 1869 - by Licence
William Holmes - full age - bachelor - Post Messenger of Howden.  Father: George, Road Surveyor
Hannah Burgen, nee Cuttill - full age - single woman of Howden.  Father:  Samuel, Retired Labourer
Witnesses:  Robert Hall and Marina Winter

1891 Census:  RG12/3918 folio 107, page 40
William Holmes - 47 - Fisherman's Outfitter - born Howden
Hannah - 64 - born Howden Dyke
M E Hall - 24 - niece - born Howden Dyke

So William appears to give the same father as Martha with a similar occupation  ;)

8433
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 17:17 BST (UK)  »
Baptism at Hooton Pagnell - 24 October 1814

Rachel, daughter of William (Labourer) and Mary Holmes of Hooton, born 15 October.


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