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8434
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 17:15 BST (UK)  »
Baptism at Hooton Pagnell - 5 November 1837

Martha, daughter of Rachael Holmes, single woman of Hooton Pagnell

8435
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 17:00 BST (UK)  »
Fine, I'll keep looking.

A bit more information for you, which you may or may not have:

1841 Census - Hooton Pagnell, Yorkshire - HO107/1327/12 folio 9, page 12

Mary Holmes - 60 - born in Yorkshire
Martha Holmes - 3 - born in Yorkshire

So this could be Martha's grandmother - no relationships are shown in 1841.


8436
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 16:49 BST (UK)  »
I've had a look at the 1851 census return where Martha (14 - born Hooton Pagnell), William (7 - born Howden), Solomon (5 - born Howden) and Ann (3 - born Howden) are all in the Union Workhouse in Howden.

From the new GRO facility, I have found William with mmn of Holmes and Solomon with mmn of Holmes, both registered in Howden District.  I cannot see Ann at this moment.  A possible for Martha, registered December quarter 1837 in the Doncaster District - no mother's maiden name given.

OK, so you're now looking for William Holmes, born 1844 in the Howden area.


8437
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 16:19 BST (UK)  »
I'm confused by your latest post - "something just happened to him not too long after her birth" - do you mean William Morcombe?   Whose death are you looking for?

Lucy is noted as having the surname of Holmes on the 1871 census, not Morcombe.  She might be William's daughter, or she might not.

You know that William Morcombe and Martha Holmes were married in 1863, and you know that John and Charles Morcombe have mother's maiden name of Holmes when their births were registered - after the marriage.


8438
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 09:07 BST (UK)  »
I've just had another look at that 1871 census entry - Lucy is aged 8 so cannot be the Lucy registered in 1864  :o

There is another Lucy Holmes, registered in Doncaster district - December quarter 1861 - no mother's maiden name given.  ;)

8439
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 08:50 BST (UK)  »
The addition of mmn was from my looking at GRO - that doesn't appear on the actual census entry.  :-[

15 June 1863 - Christ Church, Doncaster - by Banns
William Sivel Morcombe, 22, bachelor, Engine Fitter.  Father:  William, Shoemaker
Martha Holmes, 23, spinster.  Father:  George, Surveyor

The marriage also took place prior to Lucy's birth in 1864, which I think would rule out Martha being Lucy's mother, apart from Lucy's mother's maiden name was Reynolds.

8440
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 08:33 BST (UK)  »
Is this the family you were looking at in 1871?

RG10/4717 folio 82, page 14
Orchard Street, Doncaster
William Morcombe - 30 - born Devonshire
Martha - 29 - born Doncaster
Lucy Holmes - 8 - (mmn Reynolds)  see my later post
John Morcombe - 7 - (mmn Holmes)
Charles Morcombe - 5 - (mmn Holmes)


8441
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 08:12 BST (UK)  »
The new feature only gives the additional information of mother's maiden name.

I've had a look on FindMyPast for a possible baptism for Lucy, but the only one in Doncaster is in 1865 had her parents as Robert and Sarah of Bridge Street, Doncaster - Robert is a Railway Guard.

8442
Yorkshire (West Riding) / Re: Holmes of Yorkshire?
« on: Monday 27 March 17 08:01 BST (UK)  »
From the new GRO feature - Lucy's mother's maiden name was Reynolds - the registration given by "Sandra"


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