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Messages - helvissa

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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: St Nicholas Brighton look-up request
« on: Tuesday 10 May 16 19:31 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the suggestion!

In the end, I emailed The Keep, and they've helped me out with the info I needed.

But I am really grateful to everyone for pitching in to help. :)

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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: St Nicholas Brighton look-up request
« on: Sunday 08 May 16 17:45 BST (UK)  »
I'll send you a message.....

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Sussex Lookup Requests / Re: St Nicholas Brighton look-up request
« on: Sunday 08 May 16 17:42 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for pointing that out - unfortunately it doesn't give the witnesses names either!

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Sussex Lookup Requests / St Nicholas Brighton look-up request
« on: Sunday 08 May 16 16:52 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Does anyone have access to fiche or digital images of marriages for St Nicholas, Brighton? I'm looking for one which took place in June 1837.

The marriage has been transcribed by Family Search, but only the names of the bride and groom. For the purposes of a book I'm writing, I'm interested in the names of the witnesses. I haven't a clue where the original register is (I'm trying to look on The Keep website but it's confusing), and I'm not sure where to look (I do have some ancestors from Shoreham but I've never got to grips with Sussex records adequately to research them).

Can anyone help or point me in the right direction?

Thanks!
Helen.

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Essex / Re: Whittaker - Fingringhoe & Layer-de-la-Haye, Wade, Cooper & other families
« on: Saturday 27 February 16 16:37 GMT (UK)  »
Regarding the Tiffins, I've just checked what I've got in my tree. The 1741/2 will of Thomas Tiffin of Layer-de-la-Haye led me to Earls Colne, and the mighty Earls Colne Database has the baptisms of Thomas' children by his wife Anne. Amongst those children was John Tiffin, baptised 1690, buried 1752. His wife was Sarah (maiden name currently unknown as I haven't found their marriage yet).

There were eight children of John and Sarah. There's a baptism for a son John in 1720, but he'd be too old to be Sarah Whittaker's husband (he's 30 on the marriage licence in 1762. Of course, the age on the marriage licence might not be accurate). There is a gap though in the baptisms of John & Sarah's children in Earls Colne, about 1732, which might mean that Sarah Whittaker's husband is their son.

One of their sons was Charles Tiffin, baptised Feb 1736 according to the ECD (I suppose they mean 1735/6), and I think he's the husband of Mary Rayner, and was the witness of Edward Wade and Elizabeth Cardinall's marriage. But the very fact that he's connected in that way, makes me wonder if John Tiffin is his brother (or cousin? After all all Charles was the grandson of Thomas Tiffin of Layer-de-la-Haye).

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Essex / Re: Whittaker - Fingringhoe & Layer-de-la-Haye, Wade, Cooper & other families
« on: Friday 26 February 16 21:57 GMT (UK)  »
I'm glad you agree! :)

I haven't found one, but I know what you mean. It certainly seems likely that Charles Tiffen has something to do with John & Sarah Tiffen. I think you may be right - that we'll never really know because the Layer-de-la-Haye registers are lost (in a fire, tragically!). I've tried looking for wills, but nothing's really come up. But as we can see from what I've fallen over in the last couple of days, never say never - you don't know what clue is waiting for you!


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Essex / Re: Whittaker - Fingringhoe & Layer-de-la-Haye, Wade, Cooper & other families
« on: Friday 26 February 16 19:19 GMT (UK)  »
I've made a little mistake - John and Mary Whittaker married in 1729 in Tendring. They had a son John in 1730 who was buried a few months after his baptism. Then a daughter called Mary in 1731 - baptised in St Osyth and buried a few months later in Tendring. Then another daughter called Mary in 1733 (which would match up with the age at death of Mary Cooper in Fingringhoe, without the numbers being weathered) in Tendring, and then a daughter called Susan in 1735 (who could be the Susannah Whittaker buried in Fingringhoe in 1738? There's nothing necessarily to tie John and Mary to St Osyth or Tendring after Susan's 1735 baptism).

Something else to point out - William and Sarah Whitaker's last child was baptised in St Osyth in 1711. I can't see a burial for any Sarah Whitakers there, however, in 1717, Mary Davall's mother Priscilla married a man called William Whitaker. It's not a completely bananas idea that Priscilla's new husband was William Whitaker of St Osyth, and that in marrying John Whittaker, Mary Davall had married her stepbrother.

ANYWAY. Here's a simplified family tree that illustrates what I've been waffling on about..... and an explanation here.


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Essex / Re: Whittaker - Fingringhoe & Layer-de-la-Haye, Wade, Cooper & other families
« on: Friday 26 February 16 12:17 GMT (UK)  »
ALSO!!! Look what I just found, which provides another handy link....

I've got to get to TNA now and check this out.

Whitaker v Theoball.

Plaintiffs: William Whitaker, yeoman of Chich St Osythe, Essex.
Defendants: Anthony Thoeball senior.
Date of bill (or first document): 1727

This was five or six years after Anthony jnr's death, and a year after a possible remarriage for Sarah Whitaker (to William Cary). Was William protesting about something on behalf of his daughter? Or is this just coincidence and was some other issue? DEFINITELY going to check this one out....

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Essex / Re: Whittaker - Fingringhoe & Layer-de-la-Haye, Wade, Cooper & other families
« on: Friday 26 February 16 12:11 GMT (UK)  »
In other words, that last post of mine there answers the question that I came to ask on this forum several years ago!!!! Thank goodness for ERO scanning all their wills and making it so easy and quick to do this sort of lucky dip research.

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