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New Zealand Completed Requests / Re: Passenger Lists to New Zealand?
« on: Wednesday 16 November 05 18:28 GMT (UK)  »
Try:

Ships to New Zealand - 1835 to 1910:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~shipstonz/shipstonz.htm   

Auckland Passenger Lists:
http://ouraucklandstuff.freeservers.com/

Search all the on-line New Zealand passenger lists...........
http://www.downtown.co.nz/genealogy/

The OZ Ships Mailing List:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OZships/     which is linked to a huge website of Australian & New Zealand Passenger Lists.

Hope these help :)

Regards,  Ann.

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / 1871 LONDON [Spitalfields?] WHEAT
« on: Wednesday 16 November 05 18:11 GMT (UK)  »
Can someone help me, please, as I cannot find this family  1871  :(

I am looking for Benjamin WHEAT, age 34, bn Lincs, Potato Merchant
his wife Eliza WHEAT, age abt 27, bn Upwell, Cambs
their daughter, Agnes age 2 and possibly a son, Herbert, newborn - both bn in Spitalfields according to the 1881.

I have the 1861, 1881, 1891 & 1901 Census details for this family.

Regards,  Ann.




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Cambridgeshire / Re: Clearance of headstones at Upwell Baptist Church
« on: Monday 15 August 05 15:54 BST (UK)  »
The Fenland FHS  did a transcription of the headstones last year, thank goodness.

I have found that according to Guidelines issued by the Baptist Church, the headstones should either have been placed around the edge of the graveyard, or moved to another site e.g. the Town Cemetery in Upwell. 

There is a great deal of distress and anger in Upwell at the moment - what has happened there is nothing more than desecration and utter vandalism.

I know there are many other small chapels in the Fens that face being sold for re-development; so let what's happened at Upwell be a stark warning to the local communities and other connections about what may happen after the sale is completed - unless they speak up first.

Ann.

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Cambridgeshire / Clearance of headstones at Upwell Baptist Church
« on: Monday 15 August 05 13:53 BST (UK)  »
I was in the Fens visiting my parents last week, and on Thursday afternoon, I went to the Baptist Chapel at Upwell as my father hold told me that the the builders had moved in and had started clearing the headstones - with a bulldozer.
It was a horrendous sight - not one of the old headstones
is left standing; they are now just a heap of rubble behind the chapel.

I took many photographs and have now put a selection up on my website:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cawthorn/Church&Chapel/Clearance/index.html

The Baptist authorities apparently didn't put any covenants relating to care of the headstones into the Deed of Sale - all was kept very
quiet, despite one or 2 very small notices in the local papers - until the diggers moved in last week.

The developer [a Mr. Udensi] says he is doing nothing wrong [!] but surely the headstones should have been moved to another site?  I have lost 3-4 generations worth of RUSSELL, FORTH, SCOTT & CAWTHORN history and am not best pleased - and don't know what to do, etc.

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This is brilliant - James & Elizabeth senior are my Gt Gt Gt Grandparents; Charles is my Gt Grandfather - so would appreciate any more info that's available.

The 1st James , nephew aged 25, COULD BE the eldest son of James & Elizabeth
the age is about right ...............will have to work on this one  ;)

I am very, very grateful, as there is no trace of this family on 1837online's 1861 transcription   >:( ???  haven't looked at Ancestry.co.uk yet.

Regards,  Ann.

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Herts Completed Lookup Requests / 1861 - Baldock/Hitchin area -SCALES family
« on: Monday 18 July 05 19:02 BST (UK)  »
If SKS could help me find my Gt Gt Grandfather & his family, I would be eternally grateful :)

I'm looking for James & Elizabeth SCALES & at least 2 of their children, James aged 21 & Charles aged 11, living in Norton End [?] Baldock.

Many thanks,   Ann.


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Hi, my mother's family are PALMERs from Burwell - have quite a bit on my website
  http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cawthorn/


+ I also run the PALMER_East_Anglia Mailing List


Cheers,  Ann.



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Canada / Re: Walter SCOTT
« on: Monday 21 February 05 07:51 GMT (UK)  »
Been there - done that - MANY times; but without ordering [and paying for ] the documents, there's no way of telling from the index of 85+ Walter SCOTTs if my Gt Grandfather is one of them.

Really need a researcher in Canada to help out, but haven't the funds to pay one.
Unless I win the lotto, of course.

Thanks for your suggestion anyway -I'll just keep plodding on looking for walter.


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Canada / Walter SCOTT
« on: Wednesday 09 February 05 22:58 GMT (UK)  »
Everyone has a Black Sheep/Skeleton in the Cupboard, and this one is mine:-  my great Grandfather Walter SCOTT, born on 6 October 1867, in Christchurch,  Isle of Ely, Cambridgeshire, England; son of John Scott & Hannah Doncaster of Euximoor Grange Farm, Christchurch.

He has no middle name and looking at other family names, Walter is a very
unusual name to have been used. I can only assume that my Gt Gt Grandmother must've enjoyed reading Sir Walter Scott's novels!

Walter had two younger siblings, Frederick, bn 1870, & Emily, bn 1877.

Walter married Annie Maria LAVENDER, daughter of William & Mary LAVENDER,  Herbalists, of Chatteris on 27 October 1890 in the Wesleyan Chapel,  Chatteris,  Cambs.   (I have a copy of their Marriage Certficat

Their 1st child, Grace (my Grandmother),  was born on 8 November 1892 at
Honey Farm, Stonea, nr Wimblington.

There were 2 more children: Frederick Gabriel (bn 1895) & and Eveline (bn
1901).  Frederick died (of TB) on 9 March 1913, in Ventnor, Isle of Wight, aged 18 years;
Eveline married and brought up a family in my home village, Christchurch.

As far as my Dad knows from family talk, on the day that Walter disappeared, he had taken some of his father's cattle to market in King's Lynn, Norfolk,  sold them,  banked the money for his father and was never seen again!

Another version is that Walter and his men took some cattle to Bury St.
Edmunds market, which they had reared at Christchurch. It would have taken several days as they were walked the entire way. Walter sold them, paid the men, and should have gone back to the farm to hand in the money. This is the good bit, Walter took the money, which would have been considerable, and went to Canada with a servant girl, and was never seen again.

When Walter did his "runner",  he was either accompanied by the local
school mistress (who is supposed to have disappeared on the same day)
or by the family nursemaid - .

I assume he/they left U.K. in about 1903 - but from where, I don't know

Stonea has a railway station on the main Ely-March-Peterborough line,
so it would’ve been relatively easy to get a train into the Midlands and
then onto Liverpool to catch a boat.

I have no idea where he/they disembarked from in the U.K; or where he/they landed, or where he/they settled; all I know is that his signature was seen a few years later in a Hotel register by one of his English cousins, John Francis,  who just happened to book in at the same hotel (somewhere in Canada) the day after Walter SCOTT signed out!
(This was before the First World War, and before John Francis married).
The description given by the Hotel staff apparently fitted Walter to a T!

This is the only known "sighting" of Walter, so the SCOTT’s assumed Walter
went to Canada BUT he could just as easily have gone to America - or
Australia - or New Zealand - or anywhere!
His family were farmers so I would assume he got a land grant and started
farming  - but WHERE is the big question!

I only found out about Walter in March, 2000 when Dad told me; and he
only told me then because we'd been round the Churchyard recording family
headstones and I couldn't find one for Walter and asked why!
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The above text is a slightly edited version of my webpage about my
Gt Grandfather Walter SCOTT
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cawthorn/Scott/walter&annie_maria.html      where there are also 2 pictures.

Commenst/suggestions welcome, as my father turns 81 in 2 weeks and is not in the best of health, but would like to know what happened to the grandfather he never knew.



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