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London and Middlesex / St. Gabriel Street,

« on: Tuesday 06 October 20 19:08 BST (UK) »

Hi all, I’m trying to find the street my grandmother was born in and I’m not having much luck. I think maybe it doesn’t exist anymore but thought maybe someone would know. It’s listed on her birth certificate as “23 St. Gabriel street” Southwark. The same address is also listed as place of residence on her fathers death certificate. I’ve tried to locate the street but nothing is coming up on my searches. Thanks in advance for any help!
Daniel

Selkirkshire / James Turner

« on: Saturday 15 August 20 14:30 BST (UK) »

Hi all,

I’m trying to find out more about my great grandfather, James Turner, but I’m getting a little confused, so I thought someone maybe might be able to help me.
I know his name was James Turner and he was from Galashiels, but settled in London after he served in WW1. I have his marriage certificate and he was married in London in 1915 and his father is listed as John Turner, a tanner who was alive when he married. It states his age as 36 which would leave his birth year as 1879. I also have his medal with his regiment number engraved on the back and I’ve been lucky to find some documents about his service. He was discharged in 1918 due to sickness and it lists his age as 39.3 which would again put his year of birth as 1879.
My problem is I found a record of a James turner being born, with a father called John who was a skinner in Galashiels but the year of birth is 1874. I know people lied about their age upon enlistment but I don’t see any reason why he would need to as he was certainly within the age range. When I search for births in 1879 for James turner with a father called John I don’t find much at all.
I know that the marriage certificate and military records definitely relate to him and they both lead me to a birth in 1879, yet the only credible record i can find is 1874. I wonder if anyone could make any sense out of this?!
Thanks in advance for your help.
Daniel

London and Middlesex / Confused about great grandfather

« on: Tuesday 07 April 20 17:06 BST (UK) »

Hi All,

I’m trying to find the death of my great grandfather and I’m getting quite confused (I’m by no means an experienced genealogist!) Through certificates I can pinpoint his death to an 11 month period, but quite a few things don’t add up. So far I know:
* He was born in 1883 in Oldbury.
*He married Annie Wilkins (who was a widow, she was born Baker) in 1924 in Southwark.
*My grandmother was born Aug 1928 in Southwark and George is listed on the birth certificate.
* Annie married a George Shanley in July 1929 and she is listed as a widow.

So from the evidence I would say that George died between August 1928 and July 1929. I have looked at death records and have found two that could possibly be him but I’m not so sure. The first one died in Islington in Dec 1928 aged 50. The second died in Southwark Mar 1929 aged 54.
With both of them the ages are out by quite a few years. The second one is out by ten years but they did live in Southwark, but then again even if the age is wrong would his wife remarry 4 months after her husband died? I don’t know if I’m missing anything obvious or not? Any help would be Greatly appreciated!

London and Middlesex / Death of James Turner

« on: Tuesday 24 March 20 17:04 GMT (UK) »

Hi all,

I received the death certificate of my Great grandfather a few months back, however like most I now have the time to look into it further. I have looked on the city of London and Westminster archive websites, performed a google search and searched on Ancestry yet I still cant find any more information. Its certainly an interesting read and I'm sure it would have been in the local papers.
From the certificate:
-James Turner was found dead 24th December 1938 at 44 Ranlagh Road S.W.1
-His cause of death is listed as coal gas poisoning and his occupation is listed as a night watchman
-An inquest was held 28th December
I wonder if anyone would be able to point me in the right direction to find any more information (If it exists!) Many thanks in Advance
Daniel

Buckinghamshire / Charles Bates, Penn

« on: Friday 25 October 19 23:58 BST (UK) »

Hi!
I was wondering if anyone had any information on Charles Bates who was born c.1892 in Penn.
His older brothers were Joseph William (my great grandfather) and Albert Edward who I know both survived the first world war. I am trying to find out what happened to Charles as unfortunately I have no idea.
I have photos of the Bates, I know which one is Albert but I am unsure if another photo I have is Joseph or Charles so any Help that may identify him would be very much appreciated.
Thank you in advance
Daniel

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Handwriting help

« on: Wednesday 16 April 14 23:59 BST (UK) »

Hi alll!

I was recently shown this photo and helpfully for me someone has written on the back who the person is....the thing is I can't decide what it says! I was wondering if anyone else had any ideas? Many thanks in advance!

Hertfordshire / Elizabeth Seabrook, Watford union workhouse

« on: Thursday 04 July 13 13:13 BST (UK) »

Hi all!

I've come to a dead end in a part of my research and I wondered if anybody out there would be able to point me in the right direction?!
I have recently been researching my 3 x grandmother. She was called Elizabeth Seabrook (nee wood) and was born in Edgware around 1812. I found her in the 1881 census listed as a pauper in Watford Union workhouse. Intrigued, I found her death entry and ordered a certificate which to my surprise listed her as dying in the workhouse in 1881 (July) with the cause of death being 'Paraplegia exhaustion.'
I have since found her husband in the 1881 census and he was living with their son and his family in Bedmond.
I assume (not the best idea I know) that being paraplegic she would have had no other option than to go into the workhouse as i'm sure the family wouldn't have been able to cope.
That is as far as I have managed to get, I am now stuck as to where to look for further information as to how she entered the workhouse and if the paraplegia was caused by an accident or genetics or anything like that (that is if it exists!!!!)
As far as I'm aware the records for the workhouse are kept at watford museum and HALS, but looking through what they have nothing is relevant to Elizabeth, being mostly records of births or death in the 1940's. I have also searched on the Hertfordshire names online site with no joy (apart from accidentally discovering her grandson was charged with theft, but thats a whole new avenue to discover!!!)
Does anyone have any ideas on where to look next? I am quite inexperienced with my family tree, but i'm happy to do the work to find it! I just don't want to drive to HALS and waste peoples time if it's not the correct place to look! Any ideas or suggestions would be very much appreciated! Many thanks in advance!

Daniel

World War One / Help with great grandad

« on: Thursday 20 September 12 11:48 BST (UK) »

Hi all!
I recently started to look into my tree again especially in regards to my great grandad James Turner and I was particularly interested in his World War One experience. I have his medal which enabled me to find his medal card easily. I then went to the national archives website and typed in his name and rank number and it said two documents existed. I decided to order a copy of one which arrived yesterday.
It is written on a form headed "roll of individuals entitled to the victory medal and/or British war medal granted under army orders...." A lot of the headings are crossed out but all of the men have regiment numbers that are very similar.
Anyway on my great grandad's line in the remarks box it's states "28.11.18 para 292 (XVI) k ( the last letter is hard to read).
I was just wondering whether anyone would be able to make any sense of this? I have since been back to the national archives website to see if I could order the other document but no matter how hard I try I can't seem to get any results when I type in his name and regiment number!!
Many thank in advance for your help!
Daniel Turner

Graveyards and Gravestones / Dedicated grave

« on: Friday 14 September 12 13:33 BST (UK) »

Hi all!
I'm very sorry if this has been asked before, I've had a quick look and couldn't see anything!
Anyway I recently found my great grandfathers grave and the lady who manages the graveyards in Watford was very helpful and gave me lots of information. The graveyard is split into consecrated and dedicated graves and my great grandfather was in the dedicated section. I have tried to find out what this means and am still none the wiser! My question is what is the difference between a consecrated and dedicated grave and what does this mean?
Many thanks in advance for your help!
Daniel