Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - dennisrichards49

Pages: 1 ... 3 4 5 [6] 7
46
Scotland / Re: why can't I find him ? Completed.......
« on: Wednesday 13 January 10 10:35 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
I have the following details for Kate.
   1.   Kate Campbell STRONACH-24147  was born on 3 Apr 1892 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. She died1  in Dec 1979 in Llanelli, Carmarthenshire, Wales.

Kate married2  (1-MRIN:9552) Roderick Gwillim THOMAS-30354  in Mar 1920 in Llanelli, Carmarthenshire, Wales. Roderick was born3  in Dec 1873 in Llanelli, Carmarthenshire, Wales. He died4  in Sep 1938 in Llanelli, Carmarthenshire, Wales.


Kate married5  (2-MRIN:7929) William Sydney WITHEY-27595  in Sep 1951 in Llanelli, Carmarthenshire, Wales. William was born6  in Dec 1884 in Swansea, Glamorganshire, Wales. He died7  in Jun 1957 in Llanelli, Carmarthenshire, Wales.

Sources

     1.   Ancestry.com  (http://search.ancestry.com.au/).Kate Campbell WitheyBirth Date:   3 Apr 1892Death Registration Month/Year:   Dec 1979Registration district:   LlanellyInferred County:   DyfedVolume:   24Page:   2158.
     2.   Office of National Statistics (UK), Free Births, Marriages and Deaths (FreeBMD)  (http://freebmd.rootsweb.com).Internet search engine and database of  Births, Marriages and Deaths in England and Wales.Marriages Mar 1920  Stronach    Kate C    Thomas    Llanelly    11a   2075     Thomas    Roderick G    Stronach    Llanelly    11a   2075.
     3.   Office of National Statistics (UK), Free Births, Marriages and Deaths (FreeBMD) .Births Dec 1873      Thomas    Roderick Gwillim         Llanelly    11a   716.
     4.   Ancestry.com .Roderick G ThomasDeath Registration Month/Year:   Sep 1938Age at death (estimated):   64Registration district:   LlanellyInferred County:   CarmarthenshireVolume:   11aPage:   946.
     5.   Ancestry.com .William S WitheySpouse Surname:   Kate C Thomas
Date of Registration:   Jul-Aug-Sep 1951Registration district:   Llanelly Registration county (inferred):   Carmarthenshire Volume Number:   8c Page Number:   702.
     6.   Office of National Statistics (UK), Free Births, Marriages and Deaths (FreeBMD) .Births Dec 1884 Withey    William Sydney        Swansea    11a   740.
     7.   Ancestry.com .William S WitheyDeath Registration Month/Year:   Jun 1957Age at death (estimated):   72Registration district:   LlanellyInferred County:   CarmarthenshireVolume:   8aPage:   337.
Does this match your data?
Regards
Dennis Richards
Cockatoo, Vic., Australia

47
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Interpreting an occupation
« on: Sunday 03 May 09 04:22 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Ricky, David & Ron.
[oops I copied the 1891 census ref instead of the 1901 ref.]
That occupation adds a bit of interest to that family branch
Cheers
Dennis

48
Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Interpreting an occupation
« on: Saturday 02 May 09 02:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi
can anyone who as access to the 1901 images help.
I can't dertermine the occupation of a Farmer James White, from Wigginton.
The transcript is:
In 1901 living at Wigginton Lodge, Wigginton, York (RG12; Piece: 3883; Folio 25; Page 9;ED3; SN4)
James White Head 45 Relieving?? Officer & Disance??? Inspector   b. Skelton; Annie wife 45 b. Moorthorpe; Eveline dau 16 b. Skelton; Adelaide dau 13 ; George son 10 (both b. Wigginton); Samuel Blows Teamster on farm 19 b. Melbourne, Camb; William Brigham Horseman on farm 19 b. Wigginton; Hannah Robinson Wood Dom Serv 20 b.Earswick; John William Dearson Cattleman 15 b. Huntington
Thanks in Advance
Dennis

49
The Common Room / Re: Kate Eade - continued
« on: Sunday 25 January 09 23:05 GMT (UK)  »
there is the birth registration in Farnham for Daisy White in the June qtr 1888
Thanks for finding that Kath- I'll purchase this Cert.
Dennis

50
The Common Room / Re: Kate Eade - continued
« on: Sunday 25 January 09 03:07 GMT (UK)  »
Just a thought, if Daisy was registered at birth as Daisy WHITE, wouldn't she have to get married under that name as well?

This family is never consistent with the surnames it uses.  Isn't that what makes it so interesting?

  • Her younger sister Ada White married as Ada Bennett
  • Indeed her mother Mary Hawkins who had married James ROE, missed out on marrying Caesar EADE, but married Thomas WHITE as Mary Eade and then married William Bennett also as Mary Eade!!!
  • Her first son Charles Hawkins died as Charles Eade.
  • One son Horace ROE is on the census as Horace Hawkins at one point.
  • The daughter Alice ROE died as Alice Eade (and the cert. wrongly gives Caesar Eade as the father).
  • Later Millie Barbara Eade married as Millie Barbara Morris.

Dennis

51
The Common Room / Re: Kate Eade - continued
« on: Saturday 24 January 09 13:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hi again

I'm on another trail- this time Daisy White [or later Bennett]; Kate Eade's younger half-sister.
Remember in 1891 living at Bath Road, Heston, Hounslow (RG12; Piece: 1025; Folio 14; Page 26;Ed16; SN178)
Mary White Head Marr 36 b. Petworth; Archie Eade son 10; Rose Eade dau 6; Catherine Eade dau 5; Daisy White dau 3 (all b. Ash, Surrey); Ada White dau 1 b. Hounslow; William Bennett Lodger single 76 [sic] labourer b. Sunbury

When Kate Eade married Arthur Henry Morris on 13 Dec 1913 the witnesses were Daisy & W Allen.
Someone speculated that this Daisy was probably Kate's half sister Daisy White (or Bennett).  This seemed a reasonable "working proposition" at the time.

Indeed there is a marriage in the district where Daisy was born and the family once lived which fits:  Marriages Dec 1909 ALLEN Walter Ernest & BENNETT Daisy Louisa Farnham 2a 220. 
However, this Daisy Louisa BENNETT appears to be the one who was born with this exact name in Mar 1885 Farnham 2a 105. Not one who was born about 1888.

So....This can't be "our" Daisy for 2 reasons ; 1. She'd be older than her half sister Kate and 2.  Kate was born on 6 Jun 1885 - so not biologically possible, even for a mother as resilient as Mary HAWKINS!

The problem is I cannot find a Daisy (Louisa) BENNETT b. 1885 on 1891 or 1901 that fits.

I can't find any other suitable Daisy Bennett (or White) marriage to a W Allen. Perhaps the witnesses are indeed the couple above and who got married in Farnham (around Ash, Surrey) and were family friends; making the name Daisy Louisa Bennett a coincidence?

What do others think? 
Dennis


52
The Common Room / Re: Kate Eade - continued
« on: Saturday 24 January 09 09:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hi everyone
Just reporting back after arrival of some certificates.
  • I can report, unfortunately, that the following is not "our" Mary (nee Hawkins): Deaths Dec 1910 BENNETT Mary age 61 Brentford 3a 67
  • This is right though: Deaths Mar 1885 EADE Caesar age 29 Farnham 2a 67; Details are: Regn District = Farnham; Sub-District = Frimley; Counties of Surrey & Southampton. No. 328 Died 17th January 1885 at The Common, Ash, Surrey, RSD.  Caesar Eade, age 29, Labourer. Cause of Death; Phthisis 12 months; Certified by W W Young MD. Informant: John Dougherty, Present at the Death; The Common, Ash. Registered 20th January 1885 Geo. Day, Registrar.
  • This is probably right Death Cert for Mary's first child {ie Charles Hawkins b. 22 Dec 1873 to unknown father, I have this cert also} and a bit intruiging: Deaths Sep 1884 Eade Charles 10 Farnham 2a 61. Details are: Regn District = Farnham; Sub-District = Frimley; Counties of Surrey & Southampton. No. 75 Died 26th June 1884 at Ash, RSD.  Charles Eade, age 10, Infant child of a labourer. Accidental Death; Certificate received from Owen C Ward, Deputy Coroner for West Surrey, Inquest held 28th June 1884. Registered 3rd July 1884 Geo. Day, Registrar.  According to the West Surrey Family History Society it is highly unlikely that any Coroner's Inquest documents survive.  What is intruiging is that the area of Ash Common where the family lived was then crisscrossed with rifle ranges (and still is today: the Ash Common Firing Ranges) .  Maps show these ranges even in 1878.  It is possible that young Charles strayed into this area and was accidentally shot - It must have been a real tempation for a 10 year-old to get up close!- pure speculation, but with this family almost anything can be expected; wait for the next dot point
  • This is probably right Death Cert for Mary's 4th child {ie Alice Roe b. Mar 1880 in Byworth and recorded as this in 1881 when family was first seen living with Caesar Eade}. Details are:  Deaths Jun 1883 EADE Alice age 3 Farnham 2a 68. Details are: Regn District = Farnham; Sub-District = Frimley; Counties of Surrey & Southampton. No. 81 Died 8th May 1883 at The Common, Ash, Surrey, RSD.  Alice Eade, age 3, Daughter of Caesar Eade, a labourer. Cause of Death; Marasmus, 12 days; Certified by W W Young MD. Registered 8th May1883 Geo. Day, Registrar.  This is sad as the definition of Marasmus is A progressive wasting of the body, occurring chiefly in young children and associated with insufficient intake or malabsorption of food.  Perhaps the little girl was starving rather than ill.  Also of course Alice's father is not Caesar as written on the certificate.

As we can see 3 tragic deaths in 1 year and 8 months.  The last, husband Caesar, just 6 months before Mary Hawkins gives birth to our infamous Kate Eade.  So at the time of Kate's birth Mary has:
no Breadwinner;
a daughter Ellen Hawkins [Nelly] age 10;
a son Horace Roe aged 8;
a son Archie Eade age 3;
a daughter Rose Eade age 1.

Hat's off to Mary and those surviving children.  Remember 2 husbands are yet to appear and 2 children yet to be born: Daisy & Ada White!!!

The early scenario that perhaps Mary HAWKINS was "a black widow" bumping off successive husbands is the exact opposite of what she needed; a fit bread-winning partner.
Dennis

53
The Common Room / Re: Kate Eade - continued
« on: Thursday 08 January 09 13:14 GMT (UK)  »
The chart is drawn using GenoPro2007
Get it! I find it it invaluable
Dennis

54
The Common Room / Re: Kate Eade - continued
« on: Thursday 08 January 09 04:53 GMT (UK)  »
A picture tells a thousand words!!! {I hope the picture is attached and displayed- I can't see it in the preview screen}
I believe this is a summary of where this thread has led us.  It includes info from some Ancestry.com charts [namely: Peron Family Tree (Owner: rodneyperon); Pizzey/Halfhide/South/Argent Family Tree (Owner: lallygirl1); Wincomb family tree (Owner: StephenWincomb); Barnes Family Tree (Owner: thetomdog)]
Are there any mistakes?
Dennis

Pages: 1 ... 3 4 5 [6] 7