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Armed Forces / Re: Merchant Navy CR10 & CR2 Questions
« on: Tuesday 13 September 11 12:06 BST (UK)  »
Seaweed -

Well, I had attached them for an instant.  But I was concerned posting them perhaps violated the forum copyright rules.  They have crown copyright notices attached, but were obtained via a third-party service.  If I'm mistaken, I can attach them in a jiffy.

Thank you for the example of the crew agreement!  There is a six year gap btw the end date on one card and the start date on the other - so this should, indeed, help rule in or out a connection between the two.  That link is a goldmine too.

Many thanks!

CR10
123332 - 5.19
131312 - 9.19
135456 - 10.20

CR2
136791 - 26.10.26
9 other handwritten entries
Two stamps including from Alhama, Glasgow, 145260
146330 - 19.4.35


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Armed Forces / Merchant Navy CR10 & CR2 Questions
« on: Tuesday 13 September 11 02:00 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone help with the interpretation of a CR10 card?

On the front gives: No of identity certificate, name, rating, date and place of birth, nationality, nationality of father.

On the back gives: Three ship identification numbers with corresponding dates and the text "No photos.  See RS1."  Possibly "RSI."

What does this code mean?

If I look up the crew lists for these ships (some of which exist, I know), what sort of information would they tell me - name and the specific date range the sailor was aboard the ship?

Is there any way to correlate this CR10 card to a later CR2 card?  The CR2 card has a "Dis A No," name, and ship identification numbers with corresponding dates.

Specifically - is there any database that links the CR10 "no of identity certificate" with the CR2 discharge number?

I am trying to determine if the CR10 and CR2 cards belong to my great grandfather James McDuff Robertson.  There are some convincing arguments to be made in the case of each, although some inconsistencies that I'd like to shed more light on.  A way to correlate "Jas Robertson" to "J McDuff" would be extremely useful.

Thanks in advance for your assistance.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Re: Meech Isle of Wight
« on: Wednesday 31 August 11 03:46 BST (UK)  »
What sort of variants do you see for this name?

I have  Keech line in the IOW that has me a bit stuck.  I've been working under the assumption that it's often "Ketch."  But maybe I'm not thinking enough outside the box.

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Swan in Wickham
« on: Wednesday 31 August 11 03:45 BST (UK)  »
Does anyone happen to have access to the book:

Hants. parish registers and monumental inscriptions / G. L. Cokayne. -- P. 149-158. -- [1889?].

I am interested in the records for the Swan family in Wickham.  Will just order the films, if not.

I believe they attended St. Nicholas - I believe two Swan tombs were moved in 1781 when they added the south transept to the church.

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Dating Help Please
« on: Wednesday 22 June 11 12:10 BST (UK)  »
Haha, Prue, yes!  St. Louis has all death certs 1910-1960 available free online and I went person by person w/ corresponding death dates and tried to identify likely candidates.  Nothing like a good challenge  :)

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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Dating Help Please
« on: Wednesday 22 June 11 03:34 BST (UK)  »
Would love assistance with dating these photographs, if possible.

There are no other markings on the photos - no studio name, no other writing. It appears that they might have been mounted in a scrapbook or picture frame mat and removed, as there are remnants of black paper glued onto the back, but only on the photo of the man.

On the woman's photo, the Gregorian death date is written twice (Sept. 7, 1921), and the Hebrew date is written in printed letters. In the man's photo, the Gregorian date is written once (Feb.1, 1920) and the Hebrew date is written in script.  The accuracy of the dates has been confirmed; 7 Sep 1921 does correspond to 4 Elul 5681 and 1 Feb 1920 does correspond to  12 Shevat 5680.

The photos may have been taken in St. Louis, Poland, or another location in the US.  The individuals did not die in St. Louis (my best guess), however.

May be husband and wife, brother and sister, or unrelated...

Thanks in advance.

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Thanks again - I really appreciate your time and the edited photos!

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World War One / WWI Royal Navy -> Merchant Navy
« on: Wednesday 01 June 11 19:08 BST (UK)  »
Looking for some insight into this research problem.

My great grandad James McDuff Robertson served in the Royal Navy from 31 Aug 1917 to May 1919.

He was born in Perthshire, Scotland in 1899 - I have a copy of his birth certificate.  His Royal Navy service record has his same date of birth but a year of 1898.

He appears on various documents from 1920-1922 as a "seaman."  He was in Glasgow on and off during this time period.  Family legend is that he was in the merchant navy - I have legal documents that refer to him being at sea extensively in the 1921 time range. 

I've had Southampton search the CR1, CR2, and CR10 series for James Robertson.  There are three James Robertsons in the CR1 series.  One hit is an individual from Knockando (not Perthshire), b. 1898, 5 ft 8 in 3/4 (vs. 5 ft 5 in 3/4 on RN record), blue/brown/fair complexion matching on both.  It is stamped on the back w/ a year of 1922 and place of Glasgow.  I have the individual's signature, but none of the documents in my possession have a known match for comparison.

Is it within the realm of possibility this is a match?  Even with the off details?

Would it be likely that he had a career in the merchant navy for several years (at a minimum) but that he doesn't appear in the index cards?

Would there be any other resources to clarify his service in the merchant navy?

Thanks in advance for your help.  Please also tell me if there's a better section to post this query.

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Thank you to each of you!  I have so few pictures of her and you've done wonders with the face and hair :-)

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