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Lancashire / Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« on: Sunday 28 June 09 23:41 BST (UK) »
I'll try and find a local who is old enough to know! And when I do, I'll let you all know what I discover!
Thanks a lot,
Hilary
Thanks a lot,
Hilary
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Lancashire / Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« on: Sunday 28 June 09 21:09 BST (UK) »
PS! On Google Earth I can see the rather rocky looking ground at the end of the road. If that is where the Jewish cemetery is, I can imagine how spooky it looked! I'll have a look around there in the next couple of weeks.
Hilary
Hilary
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Lancashire / Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« on: Sunday 28 June 09 21:08 BST (UK) »
123 and 223 seem to be the same place, but at one time there seem to have been three different hospitals, one at Delauney Road and the other two both seem to have been on Crumpsall Road. My best guess is that the site at Delauneys Road grew in importance and became the main hospital with the accident and emergency and eventually, sometime in the 70s perhaps, the Crumpsall Road hospital was gradually wound down and closed. A similar thing happened in Salford, Ladywell hospital eventually became more of an old people's hospital with no accident and emergency, and fairly recently (10 years or so) it was finally closed and sold to become a shopping centre!
I am guessing. Of course, the patients would have had all sorts of complaints, but the hospital gradually treats the ill rather than the critical and the emergencies. Just my guess - and I am unlikely to research it further as I have now found out where our relative died and that it was a hospital.
Best wishes, Hilary
I am guessing. Of course, the patients would have had all sorts of complaints, but the hospital gradually treats the ill rather than the critical and the emergencies. Just my guess - and I am unlikely to research it further as I have now found out where our relative died and that it was a hospital.
Best wishes, Hilary
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Lancashire / Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« on: Sunday 28 June 09 00:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Emms.
I think that clears things up for me. We'll never know why she ended up in Crumpsall and we'll have to assume that she was taken there simply because there was a bed available at the time. But it does seem that it was a hospital that would cater more specifically for an elderly lady who was terminally ill, so perhaps it was a good move for her.
Thankyou to everyone on the thread!
Hilary
I think that clears things up for me. We'll never know why she ended up in Crumpsall and we'll have to assume that she was taken there simply because there was a bed available at the time. But it does seem that it was a hospital that would cater more specifically for an elderly lady who was terminally ill, so perhaps it was a good move for her.
Thankyou to everyone on the thread!
Hilary
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Lancashire / Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« on: Saturday 27 June 09 22:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Viktoria. I've been looking at it on Google Earth, the new North Manchester Hospital is off Delauneys, the Crescent Road site appears to be a school - I can see netball courts etc! I might have a drive up there next week.
I was wondering whether, in 1966 when my relative died age 85, 223 Crescent Road was a geriatric hospital? She had always lived in Salford, and we can't really understand how she ended up in Crumpsall!
Best wishes, Hilary
I was wondering whether, in 1966 when my relative died age 85, 223 Crescent Road was a geriatric hospital? She had always lived in Salford, and we can't really understand how she ended up in Crumpsall!
Best wishes, Hilary
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Lancashire / Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« on: Saturday 27 June 09 12:23 BST (UK) »
Found this on the Workhouse website
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Manchester/Manchester.shtml
123 was the workhouse:
"From 1904, to protect them from disadvantage in later life, the birth certificates for those born in the workhouse gave its address just as 123 (later 223) Crescent Road, Crumpsall."
Also on another site, a lady who was a nurse at 223 Crescent Road, the old Crumpsall Hospital. Although the hospital was combined with the others to become the North Manchester, it is not on the same site as the present day North Manchester Hospital on Delaunies Road (though most of you had worked this out already, of course!)
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/index.html?Manchester/Manchester.shtml
123 was the workhouse:
"From 1904, to protect them from disadvantage in later life, the birth certificates for those born in the workhouse gave its address just as 123 (later 223) Crescent Road, Crumpsall."
Also on another site, a lady who was a nurse at 223 Crescent Road, the old Crumpsall Hospital. Although the hospital was combined with the others to become the North Manchester, it is not on the same site as the present day North Manchester Hospital on Delaunies Road (though most of you had worked this out already, of course!)
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Lancashire / Re: 123 Cresent Rd, Crumpsall 1843
« on: Saturday 27 June 09 11:51 BST (UK) »
Just to add...
Death certificate arrived this morning, date 1966, address 223 Crescent Road, Crumpsall. Not 123!
There seems to be a lot of confusion as the modern North Manchester Hosp is off Delauneys Road, but the old Springfield Hospital, previously Park Hospital, Previously Crumpsall Workhouse, was on Crescent Road. Different sites completely. My relative's cause of death suggests that she was in a hospital, or a geriatric nursing hospital, at the time.
Just the address at 223, not 123, is intriguing!
Hilary
Death certificate arrived this morning, date 1966, address 223 Crescent Road, Crumpsall. Not 123!
There seems to be a lot of confusion as the modern North Manchester Hosp is off Delauneys Road, but the old Springfield Hospital, previously Park Hospital, Previously Crumpsall Workhouse, was on Crescent Road. Different sites completely. My relative's cause of death suggests that she was in a hospital, or a geriatric nursing hospital, at the time.
Just the address at 223, not 123, is intriguing!
Hilary
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Denbighshire / Re: Bwlchgwyn Cottages
« on: Wednesday 07 January 09 21:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,
Edward Jarvis lived on Glascoed Road. The enumerator in 1891 went up Ruthin Road past the Westminster Arms and turned right onto Glascoed Road. He called at Thorntree on the right, some cottages on the left, past the Gors (original spelling, not Gorse) and there were some more cottages on that patch of land. After he had knocked on Edward Jarvis' door (there is a slight possibility that his was a stone hovel on the left, but I think it more likely he was one of the cottages on the right), the enumerator had a pleasant downhill walk, looking across the open fields on the right to the village of Bwlchgwyn and looking down the valley on the left to the Nant y Ffrith river. The next house was the Lodge. This was the lodge to the Nant y Ffrith Hall, and I would put Monopoly money on him working at the hall!
Happy New Year all
Hilary
www.belton.me.uk
Edward Jarvis lived on Glascoed Road. The enumerator in 1891 went up Ruthin Road past the Westminster Arms and turned right onto Glascoed Road. He called at Thorntree on the right, some cottages on the left, past the Gors (original spelling, not Gorse) and there were some more cottages on that patch of land. After he had knocked on Edward Jarvis' door (there is a slight possibility that his was a stone hovel on the left, but I think it more likely he was one of the cottages on the right), the enumerator had a pleasant downhill walk, looking across the open fields on the right to the village of Bwlchgwyn and looking down the valley on the left to the Nant y Ffrith river. The next house was the Lodge. This was the lodge to the Nant y Ffrith Hall, and I would put Monopoly money on him working at the hall!
Happy New Year all
Hilary
www.belton.me.uk
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Staffordshire / Dooley of Tunstall Wolstanton
« on: Sunday 27 May 07 15:28 BST (UK) »
Does anybody have any connections with the Dooleys of Wolstanton and Tunstall, please? By 1901 they may have moved out to Swadlincote. I can trace most of them through the census - I've just got to find some marriages for the girls, but I think they left Staafford and went into service c1900-1910.
My "key" ancestor is Stephen Dooley, a master potter, born 1846 in Tunstall.
Best wishes, Hilary
My "key" ancestor is Stephen Dooley, a master potter, born 1846 in Tunstall.
Best wishes, Hilary