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Australia / Italian prisoners, Tatura camp 1940
« on: Wednesday 04 March 09 14:03 GMT (UK)  »
When Italy declared war in June 1940 Italian males in the UK were interned. Hundreds were shipped to Canada. On July 2 the liner Arandora Star was torpedoed off the Irish coast and over 800 of the 1600 men on board were lost.
Much has been learned about the Arandora Star tragedy in recent years and a memorial tablet was unveiled in Liverpool last year. Further ceremonies are planned for next year, the 70th anniversary.
A week later the survivors were put aboard the ms Dunera and after a nightmare voyage were placed in a camp at Tatura north of Melbourne. They were kindly treated so when the war ended many Italians chose to stay in Australia, names such as Cappuccini, Rabaiotti, Fulgoni, Rosi, Marioni.
Anyone out there with roots in Italy via Tatura?

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Australia / Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« on: Wednesday 04 March 09 13:09 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Sue and Jenn
So much to learn not least perils of making assumptions! Sorry we misread Caroline's birth cert entry, the 5 looks like a 6 in the year column, there is a much more distinct 1857 at the top of the page. So Christina was 33 at time of the birth.
We thought Caroline was only child because we could not find other matches, obviously we were not looking in the right places.
Christina may have died alone without family. Cause dysentery and exhaustion 3 months. Informant (??hard to read) T H Parsons, authorised agent. Parents not known. Married particulars not known. Witnesses to burial S A S Clowes and E H Weekes. Birthplace Queensferry Ireland (perhaps they were thinking of Queenstown in Ireland, a major emigrant port at that time).
Melbourne general cemetery very helpful, says she was buried in the Presbyterian section compartment K grave 706. This grave is a public unmarked grave and the section with a mixture of unmarked graves and headstones is clearly visible on Google Earth.
The three children were a good find, as is the Wm Geo Stephens in Bathurst. We too wondered about the gold rush. We're trying to find him in London before he left but birth regn did not begin until 1837, he might be in 1841 first national census as are the two sisters in Queensferry.

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Australia / Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« on: Tuesday 03 March 09 17:06 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Jenn and Sue, new to this game so did not appreciate difference between various downloads. Christina's death cert completes our story, she died in the Immigrants' Hostel on April 3 1902 and was buried in Melbourne Cemetery next day. This hostel seems to have been the last refuge of the destitute. Her daughter Caroline Christina was 1000 miles away in Manly, sister Margaret was closer in Geelong but in those days they couldn't just hop into the car, and Margaret herself was only two yrs younger ...
We also got Caroline's birth cert, she was born Swanston St Melbourne, and Christina was 43 at the time of her birth. Caroline appears to be the only child.
I wonder what happened to Christina's husband William George Stephens, born London England and a draper at the time of their marriage at Margaret's house in Adelaide? Have tried Victoria bmd and there is no match. Perhaps he died before her and in a different State?

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Australia / Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« on: Monday 02 March 09 16:33 GMT (UK)  »
I thought it was odd myself: what I received was headed Historical Index Detailed Results as follows: Family Name STEPHENS Given name Ctina Sex: unknown Event: DEATH Father's name: unknown Mother's name: unknown Spouse's family name: blank Age: 78 Birth place: blank Death place: Melb E Registration yr: 1902 Registration No: 8317
We get similar printouts from sites in UK but they have much more detail. Maybe I have to buy image of this record? Maybe the certificate would have the extra detail? I expect the BMD office will have the answer in due course

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Australia / Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« on: Monday 02 March 09 11:58 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for that, I see 8 Sichlaus in the White Pages, one living at Sichlaus Rd in Hampton E.
Melbourne Cemetery came back very quickly, they say there is no record for Christina but if she was buried in a public grave they might have it if we could quote a burial date. I downloaded the reg. entry from Victoria bmd but there is no date other than 1902, so I have emailed them to see if they can help.
Back to the rain in Ireland this am, not complaining as we wish we could send it on to you. The drought has been bad enough in itself but the TV pictures of the fires are terrible.
Bye for now

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Australia / Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« on: Sunday 01 March 09 17:32 GMT (UK)  »
Guess who has spent all day rooting around the sites you mentioned? Nice and sunny in Ireland this morning, we had a good walk but after that it was just one site after another.
I have emailed the cemetery asking if they can help find Christina and will post when I hear from them. I did indeed find Wentworth St on Google but No 22 has been replaced by what seems to be a block of flats. Your public records site is utterly brilliant - we found many McRitchies including Sqn Ldr Ian McR whom we knew about, my father being in the RAF himself during WWii. We found Charles Wild, Christina's grandson, he was only a little chap at 5ft6ins with 32in chest but he must have been ferocious as he won the Military Medal for routing an enemy post single-handed.
Thanks again for all you have done for us, you might like to see where we began with notes in the family Bible. The little X beside each girl's name has a note beneath: Jany 8th 1848, left for Australia.

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Australia / Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« on: Saturday 28 February 09 16:46 GMT (UK)  »
You two never stop digging! My family would never have thought we would learn so much, still less in such a short time.
Thanks for the cemetery address, I found the location on the excellent Necropolis website and I think I can see Margaret's grave on Google Earth, beside it is her daughter and Emil, beside them their children.
Jenn, in your reply #4 you mention a Stephens Ctina died age 76 in 1902 in Melbourne East, is there a site I might find death info, or have you this database on CD or similar? The date is about right as Christina was born on April 7 1824. It would be great to find her grave as well.
In reply #6 you mention an NAA site with nationalisation record for Emil Sichau, any idea where he came from? (My guess is German or Austrian)
Many thanks once again
Michael

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Fife / Re: McRitchie of North Queensferry
« on: Friday 27 February 09 17:04 GMT (UK)  »
Re-posted this on Australia site and within 24 hours Jenn and Sue found not only the two girls but also their children and grandchildren. Both lived to a ripe old age and I have even seen Margaret's grave in Geelong East cemetery courtesy Google Earth and the Cemetery Trust's excellent online map system.
Many thanks to everyone, not least this brilliant website.

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Australia / Re: Immigrants to Melbourne
« on: Friday 27 February 09 12:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Jenn, hello Sue
Can't thank you enough for turning up so much stuff for us.
Christina McRitchie, b. April 7 1824
Margaret McRitchie, b. May 8, 1826
Their father James McRitchie, b. May 16 1798  ....all North Queensferry in the parish of Inverkeithing, Scotland
These girls were my great-greataunts who left North queensferry because there wasn't enough to go round. They must have been very brave to tackle such a journey though it's no more than all the other emigrants had to endure. I was quite moved to find out what happened to them.
Will send you each a PM.
Michael

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