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Armagh / Re: Tracing Armagh ancestors early 1800's - Carrick/Robinson
« on: Friday 22 January 16 20:27 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for explaining Benjamin and the sourcing the name. Do you have a birth year reference for him?

Sophia Robinson (nee Ruddell Todd?) left a will that names sons Hugh, Richard, and James who were all still in the area. One of Hugh's records includes the middle name of Todd. Her will doesn't mention her daughter Mary who was married and still living in the area so there may have been several other children already provided for and not named in the will.

Newspaper notices all available on British Newspaper Archives or Findmypast, transcriptions by me, please consult originals:

"On the 15th instant, at Drumcree Church, by the Rev Robert Henry, Mr James Todd Carrick, of Richmount, in the county of Armagh, to Isabella, eldest daughter of Mr Thomas Robinson, of Divenny, in said county." (Belfast Commercial Chronicle, 21 Sep 1825)

"On the 3d, at his house in Richmount, near Portadown, after a dedious illness, Mr Thomas Robinson, aged 45 years." (Belfast News Letter, 19 Feb 1830)

"On the 30th ult, at Drumcree Church, by the Rev D Babington, John Walker Redmond, Esq, of Grange, to Mary, youngest daughter of the late Thomas Robinson, Esq, of Richmount." (Belfast Commercial Chronicle, 11 May 1840)

"On the 1st March last, at Kyak Phoo, Arracan, India, of fever, Ensign Thomas Robinson, of the 66th Regiment, Bengal NI, Hon FLCS, aged 23 years, son of the late Thomas Robinson, Esq, Devinney, near Portadown." (Northern Whig, 25 May 1843)

"September 14, at Devinney, near Portadown, Sophia, widow of the late Mr Thomas Robinson, aged eighty-eight years." (Northern Whig, 19 Sep 1866)

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Armagh / Re: Tracing Armagh ancestors early 1800's - Carrick/Robinson
« on: Friday 22 January 16 02:45 GMT (UK)  »
I've been researching this Robinson line and have several newspaper notices relating to this family.

There are references to Thomas Robinson being of Richmount and of Deviny (various spellings) but I believe it's the same person.

Isabella is named as the eldest daughter of Thomas Robinson of Divenny on her 1825 marriage notice.

Mary is named as the youngest daughter of the late Thomas Robinson of Richmount on her 1840 marriage notice. Mary's only daughter was named Sophia and this Sophia's 1918 will leaves a "miniature of Ruddell Todd" to Dr James Robinson of Cardiff who was grandson of Thomas and Sophia Robinson of Deviny (son of Richard Robinson named in Sophia Robinson's will). So I'm pretty confident that Dr James Robinson (former Lord Mayor of Cardiff) was her first cousin which would (in a roundabout way) establish Thomas Robinson of Richmount and Thomas Robinson of Deviny as one and the same while also suggesting a relationship to somebody named Ruddell Todd.

Thomas Robinson of Richmount died 3 Feb 1830 aged 45.

I have no source for the maiden name of Thomas Robinson's wife Sophia. Is the name Sophia Ruddell Todd on an Australian record for one of her children?

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Tyrone / Re: Altmore, Clonavaddy, Somerville, help - please
« on: Sunday 27 September 15 05:42 BST (UK)  »
You mention that you think George Somerville and Margaret Ann Somerville were first cousins but do you have the marriage records for their respective parents? Those would be important for trying to establish the relationship.

The PRONI website has several wills and probate records that look to line up with this family.

There's a will for William Sumeral of Altmore who died 21 Mar 1875. That lines up with a record for a William Summerville in the civil death index aged 60.

The will names his wife as Ellen and his children as John, Samuel, William, Sarah, and Ellen. He also names Robert and Samuel Sumeral of Kilnaslee as brothers.

That William is likely the one on Griffiths Primary who was the only Somerville or variant listed in Altmore so he was probably the father of William who married Mary Moore. But get the marriage record to be sure and to get the extra details that might be useful.

He doesn't name a son Robert but it was common not to name all children who'd been provided for so you need Robert's marriage record to get his father's name.

I hope you're having a lovely trip:)

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Tyrone / Re: Campbell family of tyrone??? Help please.
« on: Friday 14 August 15 10:56 BST (UK)  »
I have bumped into this family in my research.

James Reid was born about 1778 and died in Blackwatertown, Armagh in 1862 leaving a long will that you can view on the PRONI web site.

Among his list of relatives:

"My brotherinlaw Thomas Niblow and his son Richard, and each of his three daughters by my sister Sarah, the eldest married to a man of the name of Mitchell, the other two living in the neighbourhood of Ballygawley and married to men of the name of Campbell"

And later in a codicil:

"I quite forgot two of my sister Sarah Niblow's daughters: namely Mrs Martin and Mrs Brawley"

I traced Sarah Niblock who was married to a James Mitchell and settled in Tecumseth probably around the early 1850s which I think lines up well with your family :)



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If you have a good source that one/both came from Keady then you could start investigating the availability of records for that time period. I'm not familiar with that part of Armagh so I don't know what's available.

But I strongly suggest focusing your attention on Canadian records if you haven't already done that. My brief exploration turned up lots of interesting leads.

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I took a look at some of their early Canadian records.

To me it looks like Jacob Chapman and Rachel Hogg were likely married in Canada? Your subject line has Rachel Hogg being from Armagh but do you have any indication Jacob Chapman was also from Armagh? The name Jacob Chapman in Armagh would make me suspect Quaker roots.

They are on the census as New Connexion Methodists and I see an Irish-born Alexander Hogg the right age to be Rachel's father with wife Mary and sons Samuel and James in the immediate area who were also New Connexion. Samuel and James were younger than Rachel and born in Canada.

I also see a near neighbour, Irish-born, Wesleyan Methodist Jane Chapman who was married to (Canadian-born) Abraham Deforest and named a son Jacob Chapman Deforest. Her Michigan death registration has her parents as John and Mary. She was the right age to be a sister of Jacob's.

Have you traced those people?

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Armagh / Re: Isabelle Gilpin
« on: Wednesday 08 July 15 08:56 BST (UK)  »
I know I have that David Gilpin in the research I can't access right now but I think I looked at him because of his wife Lillie Miller of Derrymagowan so I might not have anything more about him. He did get married in Ireland and his marriage record would have his residence at time of marriage and his father's name and occupation so that might be worth getting.

McClelland of Derryadd also sounds familiar and I know I have multiple, interconnected families from Derryadd and the neighbouring townlands who went to Manchester, CT so I'll check on those. There were Wilsons in Derryadd.

If you're also stuck on the Wilson line then I'd suggest tracing that James backwards and forwards. Do you have his birthdate? It sounds like you have a pretty good idea of when he came to the US so you might be able to find a passenger record. Passenger records from that time are often a wealth of information with departure and destination contact names. And he likely would have travelled with a relative or friend. Common names like Wilson are tough so you really need to have details.

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Armagh / Re: Isabelle Gilpin
« on: Tuesday 07 July 15 04:24 BST (UK)  »
I have a bunch of Gilpin research that isn't accessible to me at the moment but I'll look when I get the chance.

I do have one possibility for you though. Here is one of the 11 James Gilpins born in Armagh who was in Ireland on the 1911 census:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Armagh/Killyman/Copney/323936/

His parents were William Verner Gilpin and Eliza Jane Gilpin (maiden name) who were married in 1856 so they could have had an Isabelle around 1859.

It might help if you could give details about Isabelle in the US such as where she lived and if she married and had children. Irish families tended to immigrate in clusters. If she went to the US in the 1880s then she almost certainly had relatives wherever she went first. Does her obituary imply that James was her only sibling still alive in 1915? The family I mentioned above had other living children.

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Tyrone / Re: Bloomer
« on: Sunday 19 April 15 19:41 BST (UK)  »
I have quite a bit about various Protestant Bloomers in this area.

I believe your James Bloomer was the son of Thomas Bloomer and Elizabeth Cooke found in Creivelough on the 1901 and 1911 Census returns:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Minterburn/Creevelough/1734364/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Minterburn/Creevelough/863846/

You'll see that both James and Thomas were game keepers.

Isabella's parents were Henry Stewart and Sarah McCann. Isabella's eldest daughter Elizabeth wasn't with here parents on the 1901 census because she was with her grandmother Sarah:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Caledon/Churchill_St_/1734236/

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