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Dumfriesshire / Re: John Goldie b 1797 Tynron
« on: Saturday 11 August 18 11:14 BST (UK)  »
OoooooH now that IS interesting!

I'm not certain, but I think Thomas Goldie jumped ship when it got to Melbourne. He worked as a painter/decorator when he married, then went prospecting.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: John Goldie b 1797 Tynron
« on: Saturday 11 August 18 10:04 BST (UK)  »
Hi Mark, I'm just SO impressed by your willingness to help me. Thank you very much! Tomorrow I will follow through on the links you posted. Thomas had not described his father as anything but a sailor or mariner, so I suspect he never reached the lofty heights of becoming a master or owning a ship. But one of his relatives may have. There were a couple of wealthy Goldies who were attached to things nautical, lived in London but hailed from Scotland, but I'm pretty sure they were not related to "my" Goldies. I will let you know what I discover. Exciting to be on a new tack (pardon the pun!)

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Dumfriesshire / Re: John Goldie b 1797 Tynron
« on: Saturday 11 August 18 04:56 BST (UK)  »
Hi Darlene, yes I have the same certificate. So now I know that Thomas's grandparents were NOT James Goldie and Anne Galt, I'm looking for sailors/mariners who lived in Shadwell, Middlesex. I have found likely ancestors in William Goldie who was a ships carpenter who came from Shadwell. He was (born in 1727, died in 1756) and married Ann Jackson found in a non conformist register in 1747 and they had a son William, in 1753 who was also a ships carpenter. He sailed on the "Sir Francis Drake" in 1811. I think this William MIGHT be the great grandfather of our Thomas Goldie, but I'm missing too much information at present to join up the dots.

I've also found a James Gouldey from Shadwell who was a merchant navy man, so he MIGHT be a relative, (perhaps grandfather or uncle?) allowing for spelling variations. When i figure it all out, I'll post back here with my findings :)

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Dumfriesshire / Re: John Goldie b 1797 Tynron
« on: Saturday 11 August 18 01:38 BST (UK)  »
BRILLIANT indeed! Thank you Robbiesmum ;D That solves a 4 year old mystery.


In the British Royal Navy & Royal Marines Service And Pension Records, 1704-1919 there is a John Goldie, a gunner on the Triton in1848 and Niger in 1852 who was paid off in 1856. However, his wife was Margaret whom he married in Kilwinning in Scotland.
There's another merchant navy man John Goldie from Pitenween who married Jessie and had a daughter Margaret.
Merchant navy number 571714 is a John Goldie from Sligo and also a John Goldie number 95169 from Paisley. So the last two are worth me following up, if only to discount.

Thanks once again for your help. I'm thrilled at clearing up the James Goldie/Ann Galt connection (or lack of it! ;D)

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Dumfriesshire / Re: John Goldie b 1797 Tynron
« on: Friday 10 August 18 10:47 BST (UK)  »
G'day Mark,

thank you for your suggestions on methodology. I believe I have been quite thorough in eliminating the possible John Goldies who were living in Shadwell when his sons were baptized in 1824. I have son Thomas's marriage certificate stating who his parents were when he married in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia in 1854, so I know they were John Goldie (a seaman) and Sarah Ann Peart. Thomas had joined the merchant navy in 1838 in London when he was 16 years old and neither he, his brother or parents can be found in the 1840 or later censuses in the UK.

I have a marriage record of John Goldie of the Parish of St Dunstan, Stepney and Sarah Ann Peart of the Parish of Shadwell, marrying in 1819 in Tower Hamlets. Witnesses Sarah Peart (Sarah Ann's mother maybe?) and Mary Ann Nicholls. I did find a marriage of a Sarah Ann Goldie - widow, to John Smith (great!!) in St Dunstan, Stepney in 1826 and thought this might be Thomas's mother remarrying after John had died between 1824 and 1826, but as you can appreciate, looking for a John Smith in the census has been overwhelming and I have not found them living in Shadwell in 1840.

Another researcher suggested that John Goldie's parents were James Goldie and Anna Galt of Tynron and that he died in 1881 in London. I don't think this information is correct. I think it's also a stretch to suggest the MI in the Tynron churchyard could be incorrect in saying John died in 1821, so that rules him out. So just who were his parents?

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Dumfriesshire / Re: John Goldie b 1797 Tynron
« on: Friday 10 August 18 00:21 BST (UK)  »
Thank you to both Mark and Trish for your helpful posts. I too had seen the family memorial inscription online, which mentioned John Goldie's death at Isle (where is that???) in 1821. I tried to contact the site owner but got no response. If that death information is correct, then it proves that "my" John Goldie must have different parents and NOT James and Ann, because he fathered 2 sons in Shadwell London in 1820 and 1822, with both being baptized in October 1824 in Tower Hamlets, London, where it states John is a mariner. However, I have come across M I's with the incorrect information in the past, so I'm not dismissing yet...

I will contact Dumfries archives and ask them to check their MI records. Thanks for your help.

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Dumfriesshire / Re: John Goldie b 1797 Tynron
« on: Thursday 09 August 18 08:30 BST (UK)  »
Hi Darlene,
yes that's me, but I've not received any Ancestry messages from you... I have a public tree on that website, but also a separate private tree which has all the records on it that validate my research findings. Are you looking for a particular record? I'm happy to share if I have it  :)

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Dumfriesshire / Re: John Goldie b 1797 Tynron
« on: Wednesday 08 August 18 05:17 BST (UK)  »
Hello Darlene,

thanks for your reply. Thomas Goldie and Ann Moran are the 3rd great grandparents of my husband. We are in Western Australia. I am not convinced that Thomas's father died in 1881 as his will, backed up by the census suggests that he was an upholsterer, not a mariner as he was listed when he married Sarah Ann Peart. Thomas was also a mariner before settling in Victoria.

I will keep searching for a connection back to the Goldies of Tynron as this is the only puzzle piece ;D I'm yet able to verify. It all hinges on Thomas's father. ;D

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Down / Re: Look up please. Filchie or Fitchie?
« on: Tuesday 31 July 18 09:53 BST (UK)  »
How WONDERFUL that will be! I did look on that site some time ago and was successful in seeing the original of another surname I was researching. My heart leapt with joy!

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