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Lincolnshire / Re: Lincolnshire Poor Law Index Part 8, Bastardy papers, Kesteven Quarter Sessions
« on: Thursday 12 August 21 06:24 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that information sugarbakers.
I've had look at Lincolnshire Family History Society - https://www.lincolnshirefhs.org.uk and sent them an enquiry as not sure what they have available and what might possibly be revealed.
I'll wait on their reply prior to ordering anything.
Regards
Barbara

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Lincolnshire / Re: Lincolnshire Poor Law Index Part 8, Bastardy papers, Kesteven Quarter Sessions
« on: Wednesday 11 August 21 11:42 BST (UK)  »
Thank you KGarrad - that looks hopeful......
I wonder if anyone has ever accessed that sort of documentation to let me know whether it would be worthwhile....?
Barbara

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Lincolnshire / Lincolnshire Poor Law Index Part 8, Bastardy papers, Kesteven Quarter Sessions
« on: Wednesday 11 August 21 08:07 BST (UK)  »
I am still endeavouring to locate information on Elizabeth BAGGALEY (diff. spellings) b. c1827 Long Bennington, mother Mary BAGGALEY father unknwn..

I have tried to find information relating to the booklet "Lincolnshire Poor Law Index Part 8, Bastardy papers in the  Kesteven Quarter Sessions"

I did search on the Lincolnshire Archives, but was unsuccessful  >:(

According to Details and publications list on http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LIN/lfhs (a link I am unable to find) - there are two references to Elizabeth BAGULEY in 1827, an Examination and a Recognisance. The Lincoln Archives refs. MD1827/180A&B and EA1827/9.

It would be great if anyone is able to locate this information for me, especially if it includes name of Elizabeth's father.

Thanks in advance.

Barbara in Australia

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Lincolnshire / Re: BAGALEY, Elizabeth b. 1827 d. 1848 Lincolnshire
« on: Saturday 07 August 21 03:08 BST (UK)  »
Hello again re looking into the death of Elizabeth BAGLEY d. 1848 Long Bennington & queries re information on Death Certificate.
I have now also acquired the Death Certificate of (possibly her Grandmother) Jane BAGGALEY d. 1858 Long Bennington.
I had hoped for some information to be revealed in place of death column, but on both it merely states "Long Bennington".
My other hope was in the Informant column......
I am bewildered by details on both certificates, as name of Informant (different on each) seem to have no known family connection.
I have heard there was possibly a Cottage Hospital in Long Bennington in the 1840's - 1850's & wonder if the Informant names could have that type of connection - for them to be "present at the death".
Copies of both certificates are attached and I look forward to any local information re "Informant" details.
Fingers crossed someone may have some ideas of what may have been common procedure in that era.
Thanks in advance
Barbara in Australia

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Lincolnshire / Re: BAGALEY, Elizabeth b. 1827 d. 1848 Lincolnshire
« on: Monday 02 August 21 07:41 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks Trish, yes could possibly be  :).
But we always hope for more don't we...?
If "my" Mary BAGALEY/BAGLEY/BAGGALEY was the mother of the illegitimate Elizabeth, then she is proving to be something of an enigma.  Maybe I'll find proof of her parentage one day  :-\
Thanks again for taking the time to reply.
Barbara

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Lincolnshire / Re: BAGALEY, Elizabeth b. 1827 d. 1848 Lincolnshire
« on: Sunday 01 August 21 11:38 BST (UK)  »
Further query re Elizabeth BAGLEY d. 1848 Long Bennington......
I wonder if there is likely to be any explanation for a confusing situation regarding a Death Certificate in Lincolnshire, 1848...?
The certificate information –
Died 17 May 1848 Long Bennington. Elizabeth BAGLEY Female 22 years Spinster Disease of the heart never been well from birth. Certified. (Signature, Description, and Residence of Informant) – the + mark of Mary BEET – present at the death – Long Bennington. Regd. 19 May 1848.
She was buried St Swithin Churchyard, Long Bennington.
Not knowing anything of Mary BEET in connection to Elizabeth BAGLEY I searched for anything on her and found (possibly) her on the 1841 census.for Long Bennington – working for a Farmer as a General Servant, aged 30, born in the county.
Elizabeth BAGLEY aged 15 was on the 1841 census with William and Jane BAGGALEY , but no mention of her connection to them.
There is a Death July 1848 on findagrave for Mary BEET b. c1811 (aged 49?) in Long Bennington, buried St Swithin Churchyard.
Having no DOB for Mary BEET I tried looking for her on further census years.
I couldn’t find a  further census for a Mary BEET b. c1811.
As place of death for Elizabeth BAGLEY aged 22 showed place of death as “Long Bennington” without further details, is it possible that she may have been in a hospital of some kind, and that maybe Mary BEET who was the informant, was in the same place...?
And died 2 months later...?
Just trying to think outside the square....
Attached – Death Certificate Elizabeth BAGLEY, 1841 census for Mary BEET, findagrave for Mary BEET.
Hoping someone may have some ideas.
Thanks in advance
Barbara

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Lincolnshire / Re: BAGALEY, Elizabeth b. 1827 d. 1848 Lincolnshire
« on: Tuesday 27 July 21 03:59 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks everyone for taking the time to help with this.
I did already have those details, apart from the Hundred Acre Farm location for Mary and William on 1851 census.
I did have it but from ancestry where that extra bit of info. is not listed.
She and William were shown to be residing in Church Lane, which matches other times.
The big mystery here (which I have advertised far and wide previously) relates to Mary nee BAGALY/BAGLEY/BAGGALEY/BAGGARLEY etc. whose birth or baptism, which would reveal names of parents, has NEVER BEEN LOCATED Grrrrrrr!
Many researchers (including me) are of the opinion that Mary was the daughter of William BAGGALEY and Jane nee HARDWICK.
But there is nothing documenting it as proof.
Much research has been done on the family in the hope that we have the correct parents.
It seems that the birth of illegitimate Elizabeth to spinster Mary BAGALEY in 1826 bap. 1827 and the DEATH of Elizabeth BAGLEY in 1848 aged 21 buried St Swithin,  Long Bennington, together with the 1841 census where Elizabeth age 15 is with William and Jane BAGGALEY, show the connection between Mary b. 1805 and William and Jane BAGGALEY.
All we need is proof.
I have Mary's Death Cert. which shows died at home of daughter, widow of William, present at  death Mary Kemp, sister of her husband William.  Of course - no parents!
I have the Marriage Certificate for Long Bennington 1829 - both of the parish, bachelor and spinster. No parents shown!
I wonder what else I can try to find her birth or baptism. All the other children of William and Jane BAGGALEY are listed on Lincoln Archives........
Regards from Down Under

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Lincolnshire / Re: BAGALEY, Elizabeth b. 1827 d. 1848 Lincolnshire
« on: Monday 26 July 21 10:21 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks DCB and johnhood  :)
Barbara in Australia

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Lincolnshire / BAGALEY, Elizabeth b. 1827 d. 1848 Lincolnshire
« on: Monday 26 July 21 02:48 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone help me with this search...?
I have tried ancestry, freereg, free bmd uk, gro (using various spellings) with no success  ???

I have 2 records from the Lincoln Archives...

1) Parish Baptismal Record
Date - 1827
Child's Known Name - ELIZABETH
Son/Daug - ILLEG DAUGHTER
Parents Names - MARY BAGALEY
Abode - LONG BENNINGTON
Occupation - SPINSTER

2) Parish Baptismal Record
Date - 1848
Name - ELIZABETH BAGLEY
Relationship -----
Age - 21
Abode - LONG BENNINGTON
Occupation - SPINSTER

Attached is an image of the findagrave  memorial for this person - died May 1848 Burial St Swithin. Churchyard, Long Bennington, South Kesteven District, Lincolnshire.

She was listed on the 1841 UK census with William BAGGALEY and his wife Jane (nee Hardwick).

Nothing is known of her between the birth detail from Lincoln Archives, census 1841 and death information from Lincoln Archives and findagrave memorial.

I was checking for the details to proceed to order her Death Certificate but so far, haven't found a match.

(I should mention that we believe Elizabeth's mother could be Mary BAGALEY/BAGGALEY b. c1805 who could be a daughter of William and Jane BAGGALEY, but no record of them being Mary's parents has been located).

Hope someone can find her  ;)

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