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Hi there, would anyone like to do a lookup for the 1871 census, in Forgandenny. I am looking for a Robert reid born approx 1800. His age changes from one census to another. In 1841 he was 41 years of age. In 1851 he was 54 yrs. In the 1861 Census he was 66 years of age.!! (He was born in Auchterarder, sons were James and John))
Also, ...What is the best way to find death records for this area on line!! (or is there somewhere I make a lookup request for this too??),
thankyou, regards Karen

Hello Monica, thankyou for your suggestions.
Yes, that was my post back at the turn of the century. I was high hoping that this particular Reid family were mine,(and presumed also that this Robert was the baillif, once again, high hoping!!!) , as you can see, I have doubts that need to be cleared. I did find that particular birth entry for James in the original OPR', no mention of fathers profession. Found the marraige of Robert to Helen as well, also no mention of profession.
But, considering I found (I hope!!) this Roberts mothers name being Margaret, it once again fits with the naming pattern of James's children would you agree? (This Robert and Helen had another son- the only other child to them that I can find born in 1816 , and they called him "John")- (now this is interesting because James son known as 'Rpobert' was actually christened as "John Robert Reid "!!, )
Thankyou for the 41 census. I'll have to find what "Gato- side" was.
Idea!!!just thought that if I find this Roberts death certificate, it could shed some light on things. I'll have to look into this!!! regards Karen

Hi there,

Looking for suggestions regarding my "Reid"family research.

I am desperately trying to find the family of a James Reid that was born somewhere in Perthshire 1836. According to James's wedding certificate in 1861 (at Derbyshire) James's father was named Robert Reid and profession was given as "Bailliff.
I have records of my James from the 1861 census onwards, he was a gardener ( and went on to becoming head gardener at Halls and large establishments throughout England until his death in 1896), living in Staffordshire, Cheshire and later Derbyshire. Married to Elizabeth Taylor (in 1863) native of Yorkshire, they had children by the names of James, Robert, Helen, Elizabeth, and Margaret.

I have found an entry in the "Äuchterarder" parish records that gives the birth of a James Reid born to Robert reid and Helen Paton in 1836 which are the correct names (if I am to consider the family naming pattern) and correct birth year. But , when I found the same family in the 1851 census (Gato Side, Forgandenny), James is an apprentice gardener but the father Robert,
has given his profession as a "Laboror"" then in the 1861 a "Shepherd".

Can anyone suggest whether I should  persist  looking for a Robert Reid whose profession is a Baillif (as James's Marraige certificate states),  I have done numerous census searches looking for Robert Reid with profesion as a baillif but have not been able to come up with any (except for one that was born in Wales!!).

Could it be possible for a labourer/sheperd in the 1860's to double as a Bailliff???

Any suggestions??? I'm so eager to discover where and who my James Reids parents were and where he was born, I dont know what to do next.
Any census material that I have found James in (from 1861-1891), only ever states that he was born in Perthshire.

regards Karen (Kazzann)

OK then, I have now transcribed!!!!!!
Charlotte, I'm so glad to hear you say it won't be boring, as you can imagine I have found it to be fascinating and informative. I now know a little about my family that lived at "Broadbottom"!!!
I love Family History!!!
Oh by the ways, (mshrmh),  James Reid's  remains were interred in Mottram Cemetry, I would be very greatful if anybody could do a lookup at the cemetry or in the records. I would be interested to know whether a headstone for James exists.
regards Karen (kazzann)

Here it is...
Death of Mr James Reid as written in the “ North Cheshire Herald for 24/7/1897 p.6.

We record with much regret the death of Mr. James Reid, of Mottram rd. Broadbottom, which occurred on Sunday evening, under somewhat sad circumstances. Nearly two months ago, Mr. Reid met with a singular accident a short distance from his home, falling on the kerb-stone. Being a somewhat heavy man, he fell heavily. It was found that his right ankle was very seriously injured, and it was doubtful whether he would not have to be taken to the infirmary, although he and the family were rather averse to this course. Dr. Crawshaw all along gave every detail to the injury. Some days ago, it was considered advisable, if Mr. Reid’s life must be saved, to amputate the leg. It was arranged that this operation be performed on Tuesday. As above stated however, Mr. Reid died on Sunday very suddenly. It was thought that the expectation of undergoing the operation had effected his heart.- An inquest concerning Mr. Reids death was held at seven o’clock on Tuesday evening, at the Crescent Inn”, by Mr. F. Newton, the Stockport District Coroner, and a jury. The deceased’s widow, Elizabeth Reid, informed the coroner and jury that her husband was 65years of age.. He met with an accident on the 29th May, and was brought home with a broken ankle. Doctor Crawshaw was called in and attended him twice a day from that time up to his death. Her husband never blamed anyone for his fall. He had told her that when the accident had haoppened, he was going up to Mr. Hawk’s, a short distance away.- Dr Crawshaw gave evidence to the effect, that he was called to see Mr. Reid about 10 o’clock on the night of Saturday, May 29th. He found that his ankle was dislocated, with a large wound opening into it. He attended him until his death.. His death was not directly due to the dislocation. The direct cause of death was fainting. Except for the leg, the deceased was well up to a short time before he expired. He (the doctor), had arranged that the foot should be taken off, and the deceased knew of it. It was decided on Saturday morning that the leg should be amputated.
The Coroner: Did this prey on his mind at all?-
The Doctor: I believe so. I believe it rather depressed him.- The doctor further stated that they had noticed some time that the deceased’s heart was weak, but the weakness of the heart had improved. The knowledge that he was going to undergo the operation in a day or two, so depressed Mr. Reid as to cause a fainting attack and failure of the heart from which he could not recover. He (the doctor) did not think that Mr. Reid’s leg would ever have been of the slightest use to him, even though the injury had healed up, which was doubtful. He was a very stout man, and no doubt had fatty degeneration of the heart. William Poulton of Hill End, footman, stated that on the 29th of May about ten minutes to ten, he was going home, when he saw Mr. Reid down in the road, in a sitting position. Witness obtained assistance, and had him carried home,. He noticed that something was amiss with his ankle. Mr. Reid was not unconscious. A Jury man remarked that Mr. Reid was a poor walker, and always had great difficulty in getting about. – Another juryman remarked that he had often seen Mr. Reid fall. He could not do anything without a stick.- The jury returned the following verdict: “”That James Reid died from failure of the hearts action, induced by accidental injury to his ankle.”  -
We may state that the late Mr. Reid was a Scotchman, being born in Perthshire. Up to about five years ago, he was in the employ of Mr. Chapman as Head Gardener at “Hill End” for over a dozen years. He was a churchman and was very frequently seen amongst the worshippers in the Parish Church at Mottram, and at Broadbottom Church.. He leaves a widow and a grown up family, with whom we are sure, sincere sympathy is felt. His remains were interred in Mottram Cemetry, the funeral being attended by relatives and a number of friends.