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Staffordshire / Re: Lynel family of Staffordshire
« on: Wednesday 16 December 15 14:19 GMT (UK)  »

Wow,

Thank you so much and some very interesting information which I will look into. I'll check out the will index and get back to you.

Kind regards
Adrian

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Staffordshire / Lynel family of Staffordshire
« on: Wednesday 16 December 15 07:56 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

I'd hit a brickwall with my family tree please help :
Parents
William & Eleanor
William Dean Bapt' 10 Jun 1753 Ellenhall, Staffordshire

I can't find a marriage entry for William & Eleanor anywhere but I've just obtained the will dated 1766 of Ellin Dean wife of William from Ellenhall, Staffordshire mentioned above and thankfully she mentions in the will her siblings. Sisters mentioned were Ellin (odd given same as her name but maybe an error) & Mary Lynell including Elizabeth Podmore (assume married name) with her brother Thomas Lynell yeoman of Walton Hurst as an exec' of the will. One of the witnesses to her will was Henry Lynill maybe a relative.

I think this is the bapts' entry of Ellin and her siblings:
Thomas & Hannah
Ellin Lynel 1731 Eccleshall, Staffs'
Thomas Lynel 1733 Eccleshall, Staffs'
Mary Lynill 1736 Eccleshall, Staffs'
Elizabeth Lynel 1738 Eccleshall, Staffs'
Henry Lynill 1741 Eccleshall, Staffs' buried same day

Possible marriage
Thomas Lynell & Hannah Yates
21 Dec 1730 eccleshall, staffordshire

The problem is I still can't find a marriage entry for Ellin Lynil and William Dean anywhere on the internet and Staffordshire is well covered.

Anyone have further information on the Lynill family of Hurst Walton of Staffordshire. They are difficult to find on documents given the different ways of spelling of their surname, however I did find mention of an old family the de Linhills:
From the village of lyne Hill or Linhull, apparently belonging to the deanery, but mainly in the hands of a family who are called variously de Linhill, de Lynhull, Lynell or Lynehill. near Penkridge, Staffordshire. I've been able to find very little information on this family and would love to uncover more.

Any help would be fantastic on how I could if possible research further the Lynhill family and any ideas on a marriage entry for Ellin and William. Interestingly I also have been unable to locate a marriage entry for Elizabeth and a Podmore or their brother Thomas. I'm thinking maybe they married outside of Staffordshire.

Merry Xmas and many thanks
Adrian

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Worcestershire Lookup Requests / Re: Ribbesford marriage
« on: Wednesday 11 August 10 13:00 BST (UK)  »

Hi,

Thanks Phil, I've taken your advice and fingers crossed they will reply to my email.

Regards
Adrian

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Worcestershire Lookup Requests / Ribbesford marriage
« on: Tuesday 10 August 10 08:45 BST (UK)  »

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone would have access to the marriage records of Ribbesford, Worcestershire to check the information regarding a marriage of William Tolly & Esther Masus 3rd April 1797 in Ribbesford. The reason I ask is that the surname of Masus seems to have been transcribed incorrectly and I'm wondering if someone could check the original spelling to confirm if it was actually Masus.

Many thanks and take care.
Adrian

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Worcestershire / Masus surname mystery. Help!
« on: Monday 09 August 10 09:23 BST (UK)  »

Hi everyone,

After many hours of searching I managed to obtain information on my x4 Grt Grandparents marriage entry.

William Tolly to an Esther Masus 3rd April 1797 in Ribbesford, Worcestershire.

Great I thought I'll be able to trace my family a little further back but I've hit yet another brickwall. I thought the surname of Masus sounded very odd and when I attempted to research Esther and the surname in general I've hit a complete brickwall.

I've only been able to find a couple of entries on the IGI confirming the surname of Masus did exist or at least was mis-spelt but these were few and far between:
Alice Masus 13 MAY 1736 Chipping Campden, Gloucester, England
William Masus 11 MAR 1683 Saint Michael, Coventry, Warwick, England

The surname is listed alot on the IGI but seems to originate from Finland ::) which seems odd given Esther Masus place of birth on the census returns is Martley, Worcestershire. I'm thinking this surname must have been transcribed or spelt incorrectly but for the life of me I can't work out what it should be. I've thought of Mason or maybe Moses but I'm just not sure.

Does anyone have an idea about this surname or if Masus is an actual surname and if not what the dickens it could be.

Any ideas or help would be fantastic because I'm well and truly stumped.

All the best
Adrian


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Worcestershire / Re: Dingley family of Cropthorne
« on: Thursday 04 March 10 17:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Neil,

Many thanks for your post which I found very interesting and informative.

I agree that for my particular family connection the main concern is Edward Dingley and to be honest the family links recorded from William Dingley (Halesowen, Worcestershire) back to Francis from Cropthorne is taken from other peoples family trees. These family trees are totally unsourced which immediately aroused my suspicious and it seemed to me that everyone copied their trees from each other.

I may never be able to trace my Dingley line back fully because William Dingley's place of birth doesn't seem to have been recorded on any documents. He appears on the 1841 census which stated he was born in County (Worcestershire) and his brother Robert Dingley who also lived in Halesowen, Worcestershire and is also listed born in County (Worcestershire) on the 1841 census. I can find no other Dingleys living in Halesowen prior to Robert and William but they had big familes and there are lots and lots of us around the Halesowen area today. William alone married twice and had 12 children and Robert wasn't that far behind his brother :P

I had never considered the Dingle connection from Cornwall which is food for thought and I'm going to do some research on that possibility. I will be just as pleased if I'm related to the Dingles of Cornwall and that will be a first to trace members of my family outside of Staffordshire, Worcestershire and Shropshire ;D

Interestingly I've found a number of Dingley families living in Cropthorne, Worcestershire over the years?

Kind regards
Adrian

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Worcestershire / Re: Dingley family of Cropthorne
« on: Wednesday 20 January 10 06:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,

It was smashing to hear from another potention Dingley family member and considering how many children these early Dingleys had I'd imagine there's lots.

I think you may have got confused or I have because in your post you state 'I am researching this family and have Henry Dingley married to Joanne Pitt of Kyre Park. Henry's first wife was Mary Neville dau of Sir Edward Neville and Eleanor Windsor. Henry who married Joanne Pitt was the Grandson of the Henry who married Mary Neville (so many Henrys :P).

I've tried to find the connection with James Dingley b 1757 Ripple, Worc and the Dingleys of Charlton but with no luck although I've had no better luck attempting to trace my direct line. I think anyone with a Dingley connection around Worcestershire can safely say they're related somehow to the Dingleys of Charlton. The amount of children Francis Dingley had 19 and 15 survived must mean there were lots and lots of Dingleys living around Worcestershire. My direct ancestor William had 12 children and from my research every Dingley in the Halesowen, Tipton and West Bromwich areas can trace their line back to William or his brother Robert.

I've attempted to research the family and from the information I can find they were from good gentry stock and the connection with the Neville family connected them to lots of noble familes. This said I don't think they were a very wealthy family and from the 18th century the family fortunes went into decline which coupled with the large numbers of them could explain why later descendants were not very wealthy.

The problem tracing this family is just the sheer number of them all living close together and sharing the same names ::).

I'll send you my email address by private message if you want to discuss further.

Great to hear from you.
Adrian

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Worcestershire / Re: Dingley family of Cropthorne
« on: Wednesday 06 January 10 09:54 GMT (UK)  »

Hi Jennie,

Thank you for your reply.

I also checked the link you gave and none of my Dingleys seem to appear so who knows.

Due to the large families these early Dingleys had I wouldn't be surprised that the Dingleys from Halesowen were related somehow.

The problem is how to prove it :D

All the best for the New year and many thanks for your help.

Regards
Adrian

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Worcestershire / Re: Dingley family of Cropthorne
« on: Tuesday 05 January 10 15:48 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Jennie,

I'm sorry I haven't been in contact sooner but I've been so busy working over the Xmas period.

I'm not 100% sure I do have a connection but my x4Grt Grandmother was Nancy Ann Dingley who was the daughter of William Dingley (born I think Barston, Warwickshire in 1755) and moved with his brother Robert to live in Halesowen, Worcestershire. William also had a very large family (15 children) and according to a few other peoples family trees they've traced his family:

Francis Dingley born 1550, Cropthorne, Worcestershire

Phillip Dingley born 1611, Cropthorne, Worcestershire (youngest son of Francis)

Richard Dingley born 1651, Cropthorne, Worcestershire ( son of Phillip)

Edward Dingley born 1688, Alvechurch, Worcestershire (son of Richard)

Edward Dingley born 1731 Barston, Warwickshire (son of Edward)

William Dingley born 1755, Barston, Warwickshire (son of Edward)

However the information isn't sourced so I'm not convinced and was hoping someone had the same connection that had been sourced.

I've been caught out before trusting other peoples information only to disprove it after many hours of wasted research.

Kind regards
Adrian

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