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Staffordshire / Re: Higgs of Trysull possible family connection?
« on: Tuesday 05 September 17 12:06 BST (UK)  »

Hi, everyone  ;D

Many thanks for all your help so far and much appreciated.

Kind regards
Adrian

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Staffordshire / Re: Higgs of Trysull possible family connection?
« on: Tuesday 05 September 17 12:05 BST (UK)  »
If the Elizabeth Stafford burial at age 62 in Dec 1841 giving a birth year of 1779 is your Elizabeth Higgs it would mean that she was only 14 when she married John Stafford in Dec 1793 - maybe a bit young so a Sept 1776 baptism (at Trysull) is a better fit.

Pheno

I agree and have found the age of those recorded died are usually out by 5 years or so. The Bapt 1776 could still be correct.

Kind regards
Adrian

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Staffordshire / Re: Higgs of Trysull possible family connection?
« on: Tuesday 05 September 17 12:02 BST (UK)  »
Have you discounted this burial in Trysull
Elizabeth Higgs
Burial 17 Jul 1793
Burial place All Saints, Trysull,

ADDED  You may need to eliminate her as Joseph's wife, maybe there is a gravestone  :-\

This isn't Joseph's wife because she wrote her will in 1818 but also the Elizabeth buried 1793 can't be her daughter because she leaves her daughter Elizabeth monies in her will written 1818. Oddly I couldn't find a burial for Elizabeth around 1818-1825?

Kind regards
Adrian

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Staffordshire / Re: Higgs of Trysull possible family connection?
« on: Tuesday 05 September 17 11:54 BST (UK)  »
That Elizabeth should also appear on the1841 which will tell you if she was born in County or not.

I couldn't find her listed on the 1841 census anywhere, Trish?

Regards
Adrian

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Staffordshire / Higgs of Trysull possible family connection?
« on: Tuesday 05 September 17 08:14 BST (UK)  »

Hi, everyone  ;D

I believe I may have found some interesting information that may link my ancestor Elizabeth Higgs to the Higgs of Trysull, Staffordshire but I need some documentation or firm evidence to clarify this.

I'll include all the information I've uncovered which I hope may help:

This I know:
Marriage
John Stafford (Bach') & Elizabeth Higgs (Spins')
30 Dec 1793, All Saint's church, Sedgley, Staffordshire
Both of this Parish.
By Banns.
Witnesses: William Wooley & Ann Hardral - Hardnal? (very hard to read)
Groom signs x (others sign)
(source freereg)

They settle in Dudley and have a family all baptised in Dudley except one including the eldest son named Stephen.

John's occupation is a malster and appears on his youngest child's marriage certificate in 1837.

I believe this is the death entry of Elizabeth Higgs:
Elizabeth Stafford of Dudley Buried 5 Dec 1841, St Thomas's church, Dudley aged 62 (born abt 1779).
(source freereg)

I believe Elisabeth Higgs is related to the Higgs family of Trysull, Staffordshire.

Possible Bapt'
1 Sept 1776, Trysull, Staffordshire
Joseph & Elizabeth
Elizabeth Higgs
(source freereg)

One of Elizabeth's sibling was named Stephen and Stephen was used by the Higgs family going back 5 generations that I've found. The family's occupation for generations seemed to have been Millers/Malsters.

I also found a bapt entry which interested me:

John & Elizabeth Stafford
3 Sept 1797, Trysull, Staffordshire
Elizabeth Stafford
(source freereg)

I found the will of Elizabeth Higgs of Trysull dated 1825 and she mentions her children including Elizabeth but annoying it doesn't state any married names.

Anyone else researching the Higgs of Trysull or anyone any ideas on I could progress further?

Any help would be great and does it seem like I'm onto a possible connection? (fresh pair of eyes and all that  ;D)

Kind regards
Adrian



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Wiltshire / Re: John Watts & Martha Daniel brick wall
« on: Saturday 22 April 17 15:49 BST (UK)  »

Hi ciderdrinker,

Many thanks for the information.

Regards
Adrian

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Wiltshire / Re: John Watts & Martha Daniel brick wall
« on: Monday 17 April 17 16:03 BST (UK)  »

Hi Paco,

Many thanks for replying to my thread.

I found the Martha mentioned and thought that this was the correct one but recently found a burial for Martha Daniel:

Martha Daniel
Burial date:14 Sep 1784
Place: Rushall, Wiltshire
Next of kin: Daughter of George Daniel

The above seems most likely to be the Martha you mentioned.

Kind regards
Adrian

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Wiltshire / John Watts & Martha Daniel brick wall
« on: Tuesday 11 April 17 08:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi,

I've hit a brick wall attempting to uncover any details on my ancestors John Watts & Martha Daniel.

This is all I have:

8 Feb 1786 Trowbridge, St James church
John Watts Bachelor (wool picker)
&
Martha Danial Spinster
Both of this parish
by banns   
Witness 1. Thomas Tyrrel (church)
Witness 2. Henry Nightengal (church)

I thought I may have found Martha Daniel bapt' 1765 Rushall but then found a burial for her 1785 Rushall (daughter of George).

I've no idea and have checked the FindMyPast website for suitable Bapts' but I can't find any. The only other interesting information was that their two daughters were bapt as adults (over 18yrs old) at St James church, Trowbridge. Their daughter Mary married a soldier in Trowbridge, St James church.

I know it's a long shot but any ideas on the parents of John & Martha?

Kind regards
Adrian
 

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Shropshire / Re: Bailey (yeoman) family of Edgmond
« on: Tuesday 04 April 17 05:58 BST (UK)  »

Hi,

Many thanks for your advice chempat.

I've found a reference to the Bayley family of Edgmond on the Shropshire archives website and apparently, it gives information on their family tree.

I may request a lookup.

Kind regards
Adrian

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