Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.


Messages - VDLstories

Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 ... 9
19


and the 1871 census address of MC GOUGH in  KIRK ST is now called  STEVENSON ST - also near st Andrews Square where they are for 1875, 1881, 1885

thanks to that great street names changed web site

just got to find them in 1861 now...




20

If so,

then the 1905 marriage address of [Sth] York street is only a few metres away, one parallel street to the west from [Sth] Wellington street address of 1891.


22
hi  Sancti

Many thanks for this great link to changed street names - fantastic site.

Meanwhile I have taken a look and wondering if the part of London Rd that was Canning street is the beginning part near St Andrews Square?

which is where this family was living between 1875 and 1885
and maybe Sth Wellington st is also close [1889]
which brings us to 1891 and Canning st.

google map of London Rd near St Andrews sq is:

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en-GB&q=london+rd+glasgow&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=London+Rd,+Glasgow,+United+Kingdom&ei=A1KRTMPKFNHP4Abb45XEBA&ved=0CBQQ8gEwAA&ll=55.854083,-4.241581&spn=0.005227,0.017939&z=16&iwloc=A

thanks again
Julie

23
hi

just an update that WILLIAM BRIGGS on the 1791 PITT to Norfolk Island was an Irishman, not from Bedfordshire. William was one of many Irishmen sent onward from NSW to Norfolk Island apparently because they were seen as agitators. I would like to learn more about William.

but am now still a bit stuck about who was my ggg grandfather  GEORGE BRIGGS ... who if was a seaman aged 32 in 1823 - which sounds reasonable and is in newspapers,  was born in 1791, and if EC means Emancipated convict, he was transported under another name aged 16+ = arrived 1807+, and perhaps reverted to Briggs once free. He was in Bass Strait Tasmania by 1810 fathering children.

So  I just need to find a magic list of all male convicts and seaman/free men, born c1790-1 from Bedfordshire arriving before 1809 into Australia!
phew.
Julie

24
Lanarkshire / Where is 3 Canning St Glasgow, 1891 census[on map 2010?] [Calton, Bridgeton]
« on: Wednesday 15 September 10 22:28 BST (UK)  »
hi

I am coming to Scotland in 2 weeks and want to visit as best as possible where ancestors lived as found on various records - finding most on google maps  - but I can't find 3 Canning St, Calton, Bridgeton, Glasgow where my GOUGH family were living in 1891.

Can anyone advise where that was? if possible via a google map link !?

Also I am trying to understand if they were going 'up' or 'down' in the world of housing in each census, where they lived. How was their lives...

 I understand from previous rootschat feedback that Bridgegate st was in the midst of a slum area.

1851census  MC GOUGH -  71 Bridgegate st, Glasgow
1856 death Ann [mother aged 30] MC GOUGH -  81 Bridgegate st, Glasgow
** 1861 census MC GOUGH - can't find them [Francis father b1818, and John Mc Geough/McGough   son b.1845 - any advice welcomed to find them.]
1871 census MC GOUGH- 13 Kirk St [?], Glasgow, Calton
1875 birth MC GOUGH - 38 St Andrews Sq, Blackfriars
1881 census - MC GOUGH - 38 St Andrews Sq, Blackfriars
1885 birth  MC GOUGH - 42 St Andrews Sq, Blackfriars
1889 birth MC GOUGH - 40? South Wellington St, Glasgow
1891 census GOUGH - 3 Canning st Calton, Bridgeton, Glasgow
1901 census GOUGH - 19 Sandyfaulds st, Govan
1901 census COPE - 562 Calder st, Govan, Glasgow
1905 marriage GOUGH - home address - 438 South York St, Glasgow
1905 marriage  GOUGH - church was Kinning Park 33 Queen sq, Glasgow
1908 birth GOUGH 29 Govanhill Street Glasgow
1920 death MC GOUGH - 494 Crown st Glasgow
1929 marriage GOUGH - west Gourlay st, Springlawn [?]

if anyone can advise on that it would be appreciated also
thanks
Julie

25
hi Harvo

thanks very much, I am hoping their trial docs still exist - it is quite early for Australian surviving convict records back in UK I think

you have inspired me to take up the search again
I will get  on the Kew site online and see if I can find it.

Julie

26
Many thanks   Elwyn, Kingskerswell and Aghadowey for your really valued advice

This is all very helpful.

 I have been busy pasting the McKenzies in Fermanagh tables from the 1901 census into a doc. -  that does give a really good indication of locations of McKenzies so at least I am not driving blind into Fermanagh shortly - although 1901 is  [maybe] 4 generations after Charles was convicted in Nottingham in 1815. Even so, I can get a sense of the place and perhaps  even find a McKenzie today. Also, perhaps some church ministers in these locations might know more.

Meanwhile, I am yet to get a   mini subscription trial of ancestry.com for 14 days when I can then hopefully download the [pre Australian] UK trial records of the McKenzies and the other 10! transported ancestors.

thanks again [I am now pasting the 1911 census to compare McKenzies from then to 1901.]

Julie

27
Hello everyone

I have now been tracking Frances McG(e)ough and Ann (nee Mortimer's) children born in Glasgow, and found that four children did not survive childhood in 1850s Blackfriars Glasgow.

Only one child, son John McGough,my gg grandfather, seems to have survived to have children.

Anyhow the children who died young were named Frances, Bridget,  Philip   and Michael.

Bridget and  Philip  are the names of Ann Mortimer's parents  and Frances, his own - the father's name.

I am thinking that Michael McGough might be the name of Frances's Mc G(e)ough's father back in Monaghan, even Carrickmacross where Frances said he was born c1818.

Does anyone know of a Michael McGough born c1790s-1800 who had a son named Frances c1818, also there may also be an elder sister Helen McGough who went to Glasgow in the 1830s and married a Philip Crawley [Croiley = in Scotland's People].

Thanks for any advice - I am driving up to Monaghan from Cork  on the weekend and hope to visit townships where these McGough's came from, and it would be fantastic to know more, perhaps even meet any McGoughs in the area today.

Julie Gough



Pages: 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 ... 9