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The Common Room / "Running away to Spain" late 1920s - passports ?
« on: Saturday 05 December 20 14:07 GMT (UK)  »
We're trying to verify a story that one of my Irish grandfather's sisters ran away to Spain. She was born in 1906, and married in Co.Cork in early 1931, but we know nothing else about her. Our initial assumption is that if the story's true it would probably have been some time in the mid to late 1920s.

The Wikipedia 'Irish Passport' article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_passport says that
the Irish government issued its first passports to the general public on 3 April 1924 but that, until January 1930, many Irish Free State citizens also had to obtain British passports.

Was it compulsory to have a passport in the late 1920s ?

Is there any way to check Irish and/or British passport applications made during the late 1920s ?

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The Common Room / Grandfather on TV at Wimbledon (tennis) - not sure of year
« on: Saturday 07 November 20 08:27 GMT (UK)  »
My grandfather was a sound engineer, and we all recall mum crying out "Dad's on TV!" during Wimbledon one year. The umpire had a problem with his microphone and the game was stopped for a couple of minutes while my grandfather climbed up to the umpire's chair and fixed it.

We've been trying to narrow it down and best we can come up with is that it was the final (or possibly semi-final, maybe even quarter finals) of the women's singles, some time around 1978-1980.

I've found four complete matches on the official Wimbledon channel at Youtube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwx9gNibGUz7vmg3eo-iJwDBy5cRWfTwx - 1980 Evert/Goolagong final, 1980 Navratilova/King quarter final, 1978 Navratilova/Evert final, and 1977 evert/Wade semi-final. Each is a couple of hours long so I haven't watched them, just quickly scanned through and I can't see anything in them.

Does anybody have any suggestions as to how I could track this down ?

(I'm really hoping against hope that there's a tennis fanatic reading this who'll answer "Oh yes, I remember that, it was ..." - ever the optimist!  ;D )

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I have an account at ancestry.co.uk

I was recently invited to view a contact's tree on Ancestry.

However, this new tree is on the Australian site ( ancestry.com.au ) and I apparently have to create a new account over there in order to view it.

This may be because I only have a free account, so I'd be interested to know if anybody else has come across this.

RESOLUTION (Thanks to everybody who responded):  You can log into any Ancestry regional site using the same login as your normal one. That even works with a free account.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1842 RC Baptism Clonmel Co.Tipp
« on: Monday 15 June 20 19:41 BST (UK)  »
1842 Catholic baptism in Clonmel,Co.Tipp. What does this entry say? The given name has been Latinized as usual, so any guesses at what the non-Latinized version of the name would be ?

This entry is the 3rd one down on the leftmost (June 1842) of the four columns from the St. Mary's, Clonmel | Microfilm 02461 / 04 (Baptisms: 18 July 1832 to 28 Dec. 1842), Page 113 - June 1842 to Sep. 1842.

Full page can be viewed at the NLI website here https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632164#page/113/mode/1up


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My first reading of this Irish death certificate of a 79 year old widow was "Myocarditis Senile Decay Certified", which to me would be heart failure brought on by old age.

But the first letter of the first word doesn't look like an M to me.

So I just want to be sure that I haven't misread the first word.

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Who paid the £35 ? (Very easy)
« on: Wednesday 03 June 20 10:59 BST (UK)  »
This one's quite easy, but the two parts of the answer don't match up.

It's probably just a simple mistake on the part of whoever wrote it, but I'd like to see how a few other people read it before explaining.

(the document's from 1928)


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The Common Room / Individual Appearing Under Two Names In Probate Register ?
« on: Wednesday 13 May 20 13:54 BST (UK)  »
For a person to be identified twice in the Probate Register* with different but cross-referenced names, I assume the registrar would have needed more evidence than just heresay that "she was known by two different names"

Can anybody enlighten me further as to what sort of evidence of alternative names would be required ?

(See also reply #30 on this Twins: Could one twin be 90 day premature,the other full-term (in 1900 Ireland)? topic https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=778539.msg6952247#msg6952247)

*this extract is apparently from the England And Wales National Probate Calendar (Index Of Wills and Administrations

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Now I thought that the main purpose of taking an Ancestry DNA test (i.e. the ones targeted at matching your DNA with potential relatives) was to help put you in touch with those potential relatives.

But several posts on this forum seem to indicate that people often get no response when trying to make contact.

So why do you think that people fail to respond to enquiries from potential relatives ?

Here's a shortlist of the reasons I can think of:

  • The person is interested in family history but...
    • ...they've died
    • ...they didn't realize that they needed an ongoing subscription to make full use of the service
    • ...they received so many "We're related, can you tell me everything you know?" emails that they got fed up and no longer respond
    • ...they only look at their family tree once a month/year

  • The person simply isn't interested in family history but...
    • ...they were given the DNA test as a present

Which do you think are most likely ?

Can you expand on any of these, or think of any other reasons ?

And what suggestions do you have if the most promising lead you've come across is one of these people ?

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I've never been interested in DNA testing - for me it's the challenge of trying to track things down myself from S.E.Asia using just* free online resources that's appealing.

My brother had an Ancestry.co DNA test last year (although he has no published tree anywhere) and was contacted by two people, siblings, who had 1st-3rd cousin matches with him. Since I'm the one who's done the family tree (and has a public tree there) he asked what I thought. I replied:

"I've just done a quick bit of reading up on DNA testing and it seems most likely to be just random chance. I very much doubt that there's any connection.
For example:
- This https://www.ibdna.com/tests/cousin-dna-test/ says that "... With just 12.5% of common DNA between first cousins, a test result showing common DNA between the two is likely just due to chance..."
- This https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212170668-Average-percent-DNA-shared-between-relatives indicates that 2nd cousins only share just over 3% DNA. So even more likely to be just chance"


Last week I was directly contacted via Ancestry.co by a sibling of the two who contacted my brother. Once again I did some reading up, but this time came to the opposite conclusion,based mainly on this - https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_statistics

From further emails with my new contact it turns out that, out of my brothers single '1st-2nd cousin' and three '2nd-3rd cousin' matches, all four are my new contact's siblings.

My brother's results also indicate a 2nd-3rd cousin link to somebody who we haven't managed to contact but who, from the snippet of their tree shown on my brother's DNA results, is almost certainly a 2nd cousin.

Apparently this person also appears as a 2nd-3rd cousin match on one of my new contact's siblings results.

The question is, does this all point to an almost certain genuine connection ?



*Plus, in the early days, visits to the National Archives at Kew on my occasional trips to the UK, and the purchase of a few marriage / birth certificates.

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