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John PAPADOPOULOS 
Sailed 3 September 1937 from Liverpool to New York   
Johns age given as 64 occupation engineer
Ships name  FRANCONIA

Rosie
 
Hi Rosie,
I have a little puzzle - was it you who sent me the message about Demetrius George Papadopulo trying to get naturalisation in New York?
Someone sent me the reference, but it seems to have disappeared from these messages and I cannot find it myself.
I'm off to Italy tomorrow and would love to do something before I go.
Thank you
Maureen

Quote from: JenB on Wednesday 14 October 09 08:56 BST (UK)

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I've looked for both the boys in the 1881 and 1891 censuses - so far with complete lack of success.

My apologies.

I should have said that I'd looked for them in the 1891 and 1901 censuses. I had seen


Oh dear - someone left me a message about Demetrius George Papadopulo trying to get naturalisation in New York - but I cannot find the message again -
Can whoever so kindly posted it to me please repeat??
Thank you - Maureen



tthe 1881 entry, as I said in my reply #7 

Thank you, no need to apologise;  I'm so pleased with the information you have been able to find.
Tomorrow I'm leaving for Italy to visit my two sons and will be away for about 3 weeks. However, today the search continues and even while I'm  away I'll certainly be coming on to Roots and hope the search can go on.
Ciao for now,
Maureen Ross

Given that in 1871 we have John, Victor (as 'adopted son') as Papadopulo and Elizabeth Brown in the household as 'housekeeper', it seems pretty clear that they were not married at that point.

A couple of other interesting bits in freebmd:
Sep 1871 quarter birth for Ypatia Papadopulo (in Croydon, looks like she might be another child of this family).  She died as a baby and is indexed at death as Ypatia Papadopulo Brown.
and the 1881 marriage of John Papadopulos in Kensington - could be him?

Well done!  You've come up what has taken me months to discover!!
Only found out about Ypatia's death a couple of days ago, mainly because her having been registered as Papadopulo Brown.
I also found the marriage of John Papadopulos (not correct as a name, but there are so many errors on that) - I seem to have mislaid the wedding certificate in my filing system, but I think you'll find that he married an Elizabeth Rooks, who had previously been married to someone named something like Corsega.  Now, if it had been Elizabeth Brown I'd really be delighted.
I have actually been to Kew and found the papers about John in Alexandria.  He was the (previously unknown) brother of my great grandfather, Demetrius George Papadopulo and I think there was some scandal attached to his going to Egypt, where he had been teaching French and died of natural causes.  Despite the information about his death, there is no mention of his age, where he was born, nothing.
I really do wonder whether he was the father of the three children with Elizabeth, but do not know how to track down that one.
I'm delighted with the help I'm getting on Roots - If only I'd known before!!
Many thanks indeed, Maureen Ross

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue - there is indexed a naturalisation in 1867 under the surname of Papadachi, and also an 1885 record relating to a John Papadopulo's estate (linked somehow to the British consulate in Alexandria, perhaps he died in that area)

Hello again, Maureen, Have you tried the freebmd site with the limitations, as I suggested? I think there are many of the family you seek in there with variant spellings......Please let me know if you try it......    Pat

Hi,
I'm amazed - since putting on my message less than an hour ago, I've had a number of replies - which you probably have seen - thus, no time yet.
However, I think I have seen the pages you mention - where there are the names of my grandfather - his wife -= brother - sister etc. etc.
Now I have to try to solve the mystery of the father of Victor and John (who appear to have gone to America, as I had thought very probable). 
He was either the brother of my grandfather or his uncle - born in Constantinople about 1836 - and that might be a harder nut to crack.
Delighted with these responses and your offer of help - so I will go back and do as you said just in case I find something else.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Maureen Ross