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William Barrie m Isabella Hardie, Larbert lookup
« on: Wednesday 26 October 05 00:36 BST (UK) »
I have the marriage of William Barrie and Isabella Hardie in Larbert on 17 dec 1848 from the IGI. Could anybody help with any additional details that may be available.

Thanks,

Kent
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Re: William Barrie m Isabella Hardie, Larbert lookup
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 26 October 05 09:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Kent,

I found one child on the BVRs to your couple:

BARRIE, William
Gender:   Male
Birth Date: 15 Nov 1852   
Christening Date: 14 Dec 1852
Recorded in:   Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father:   William BARRIE
Mother:   Isabella HARDIE
Source:   FHL Film 1041978   Dates:   1803 - 1855

Anne

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Re: William Barrie m Isabella Hardie, Larbert lookup
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 27 October 05 15:55 BST (UK) »
Hi Anne,

Thanks for the note. I probably should have put more detail in my initial request.

I have details for the family :

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            Husband: William Barrie #7160   died at age: 80
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               Born: 08 Jun 1826          in Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland 
               Died: 20 Jan 1907          in Montreal, Quebec 
         Occupation: 1881                 Tailor 
         Occupation: 1901                 Tailor 
          Emigrated: 1856                 to Canada 
             Father: William Barrie #7158
             Mother: Mary Taylor #7159
Migrated to Canada in 1857
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               Wife: Isabella Hardie #7167 
            Married: 17 Dec 1848          in Larbert Parish Church, Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland     his age: 22   her age: 23
    Census (family): 1881                 in Ste-Louis Ward, Montreal, Quebec 
    Census (family): 1901                 in Ste-Louis Ward, Montreal, Quebec 
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               Born: 01 jan 1825          in Scotland 
             Father:
             Mother:
age 76 in 1901 Quebec census
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          M Child 1: William Barrie #7168   died at age: 32
               Born: 15 Nov 1852          in Scotland 
           Baptized: 14 dec 1852          in Stirling Parish Church, Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland 
               Died: 1885                 in   
            Resided: 1881                 in Ste-Antoine Ward, Montreal, Quebec 
             Spouse: Sarah Ellen Sadler  #7217  b. 07 Jun 1856 
            Married: 04 Sep 1878          in Montreal, Quebec 
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          F Child 2: UNKNOWN Barrie #7169   died at age: 0
               Born: BEF 1855             in Scotland 
               Died: BEF 1855             in Scotland 
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          F Child 3: UNKNOWN Barrie #7170   died at age: 0
               Born: BEF 1855             in Scotland 
               Died: BEF 1855             in Scotland 
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          F Child 4: UNKNOWN Barrie #7171   died at age: 0
               Born: BEF 1855             in Scotland 
               Died: BEF 1855             in Scotland 
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          M Child 5: James Barrie #7172 
               Born: 16 May 1855          in Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland 
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          M Child 6: Robert Hardie Barrie #7173   died at age: 77
               Born: 03 Oct 1857          in Canada 
            Resided: 1881                 in Ste-Louis Ward, Montreal, Quebec 
         Occupation: 1881                 Tailor 
         Occupation: 1901                 Tailor 
               Died: 1935                 in   
             Buried: 1935                 in Mount Royal Cemetery, Montreal, Quebec 
             Spouse: Martha Cooper  #7220  b. 23 jan 1865  d. 18 may 1937 
    Census (family): 1901                 in Ste-Louis Ward, Montreal, Quebec 
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          F Child 7: Jane Barrie #7174   died at age: 39
               Born: 07 Nov 1859          in Canada 
               Died: 1899                 in   
             Spouse: George W F Badeley  #7229 
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          F Child 8: Isabella Barrie #7175   died at age: 56
               Born: 06 Dec 1861          in Canada 
               Died: 1918                 in   
             Spouse: William Henry Lavers  #7238 
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          M Child 9: Thomas Barrie #7176   died at age: 3
               Born: 13 apr 1863          in Canada 
               Died: jan 1867             in   
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         M Child 10: George Hardie Barrie #7177   died at age: 31
               Born: 19 Jan 1867          in Canada 
               Died: 1899                 in   
             Spouse: Eliza Ann Laughton  #7249 
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The family emigrated to Canada about 1856. I am trying to find the parents of Isabella Hardie and hoped that the original marriage record might list her parents. Her birth date came from the 1901 census of Canada, but these dates are often incorrect.

Thanks,

Kent

Buckland - Taplow, Bucks -> Swindon, Wiltshire
Wellington/Wallington/Willington - Middlesex
Peters, Worsfold, Bird, Fenner - Surrey
Searle, Bond, Matthews, Beard, Sparkes, Amps, Harle, Ashwood, Purser, Elice - Cambridgeshire
Hunt -  Worcestershire
Barrie, Hardie - Stirlingshire

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Re: William Barrie m Isabella Hardie, Larbert lookup
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 October 05 16:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Kent,

The nearest one to 1825 is this one:

HARDIE, Isabella
Gender:   Female
Birth Date: 18 Apr 1821   
Christening Date: 16 May 1821
Recorded in: Bothkennar, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father:   John HARDIE
Mother:   Janet FULTON
Source:   FHL Film 1041972   Dates:   1722 - 1854

There is another Isabella born in Larbert: 

HARDIE, Isobella
Gender:   Female
Christening Date: 16 Feb 1816
Recorded in: Larbert, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Father:   David HARDIE
Mother:   Jean RAE
Source:   FHL Film 1041953   Dates:   1723 - 1855

Anne


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Re: William Barrie m Isabella Hardie, Larbert lookup
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 October 05 17:32 BST (UK) »
Anne,

I found the following in the IGI :

ISABEL HARDIE 
  Female     
    ~~~~~~~~
Event(s):
 Birth:  01 JAN 1825   
 
 Christening:  16 JAN 1825   Cumbernauld, Dunbarton, Scotland
 ~~~~~~~~
Parents:
  Father:  ROBERT HARDIE  Family
  Mother:  JEAN HOUSTON     
 
~~~~~~~~
Messages:
 Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. 
     

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Source Information:
 Batch No.:  Dates:  Source Call No.:  Type:  Printout Call No.:  Type: 
 
 C114955  1819 - 1854  1041984   Film  6900825   Film 
 
 
 Sheet: 00


The date looks too good to be true, so I'm trying to find some way to confirm.

Kent
Buckland - Taplow, Bucks -> Swindon, Wiltshire
Wellington/Wallington/Willington - Middlesex
Peters, Worsfold, Bird, Fenner - Surrey
Searle, Bond, Matthews, Beard, Sparkes, Amps, Harle, Ashwood, Purser, Elice - Cambridgeshire
Hunt -  Worcestershire
Barrie, Hardie - Stirlingshire

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Re: William Barrie m Isabella Hardie, Larbert lookup
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 October 05 21:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Kent,

Do you know for sure Isabella was born in January?

I found this one:

HARDIE, Isabella
Gender:   Female
Birth Date: 7 May 1825   
Christening Date: 29 May 1825
Recorded in: Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
Father:   James HARDIE
Mother:   Agnes CALLENDAR
Source:   FHL Film 1066635   Dates:   1813 - 185

?

Anne

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Re: William Barrie m Isabella Hardie, Larbert lookup
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 October 05 21:27 BST (UK) »
Anne,

The date of 01 jan 1825 is from the 1901 census of Canada. From experience, there is a >50% chance that this is wrong.

So, the entries from Cumbernauld and Linlithgow are equally likely, with both being relatively slose to Larbert. They named sons James and Robert, so that doesn't help either.

Thanks for your efforts,

Kent
Buckland - Taplow, Bucks -> Swindon, Wiltshire
Wellington/Wallington/Willington - Middlesex
Peters, Worsfold, Bird, Fenner - Surrey
Searle, Bond, Matthews, Beard, Sparkes, Amps, Harle, Ashwood, Purser, Elice - Cambridgeshire
Hunt -  Worcestershire
Barrie, Hardie - Stirlingshire