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[Rebecca Steele]

Hi,

I visited the Worcester Record Office back at the end of August, and was really pleased when I found my great great great grandparents, Richard & Hannah Morgan their son Christopher aged 21 (my great great grandad) and much to my surprise a Grandson named William aged 16 (born Eldersfield, Worcestershire) on the 1851 census.

Having been unable to trace any of their children, apart from Christopher, I was really pleased thinking maybe I'd be able to find another sibling of Christophers.

Imagine how pleased I was when I found a marriage for William on the IGI, so I ordered the certifiate, thinking I'd find his dads name.

However, when the certificate arrived there was no fathers name registered (just a line drawn through). Although Christopher and his now Wife Martha were there as Witnesses.

I haven't been able to find a baptism for William on the IGI either ..... does anyone know if the IGI records baseborn children or is it just children with two parents?

Any pointers anyone can give me will be gratefully received, as I completely at a loss as to what to do.

Regards,
Chui

[otters]

The IGI is not complete. There are lots of entries that are taken from parish records and they state that they are "extracted records". Others are sent into the site by people who are doing their family research, so not everyone is included. Some do have only one parent listed and some have the father with the Christian name of the mother, where the maiden name isn't known.
Hope this helps.

[janan]

Hi Chui
I've had a look for William in 1841 but no William Morgan of right age appearing in Worcestershire. Did find this though in case you haven't got it.
Cheers jan

Golden Valley,Castlemorton
Richard Morgan 50 Ag Lab
Hannah do 50
Thomas do 13
Christopher do 11
HO107-1204  Folio3 Pg18

[Rebecca Steele]

Thank you both for your help it is very much appreciated!

Chui

[gennig]

Hi Chui

The following is possibily Christopher's brother Thomas in 1851.  The wife Ann could also be a sister.

1851 Census H O 107/2037 page: 1
“Wagon & Horses” (can’t make out the rest) Churchill

Henry Evans 30 Head Churchill, Worcestershire,  Inn keeper
Ann Evans 30 Wife Castlemorton, Worcestershire,
Mary Ann Evans 6 Daughter Redmore, Worcestershire,  Scholar
Hannah Evans 3 Daughter Churchill, Worcestershire,
Thomas Morgan 23 Lodger Single Castlemorton, Worcestershire,  Ag Lab
John Jakes 60 Lodger Widower Alvanley, Shropshire,  Ag Lab
Edward Yardley 38 Lodger Widower Coals Hill, Warwickshire,  Ag Lab
Shadrick Cramp 64 Lodger Widower Elmley Lovet, Worcestershire, Ag Lab
James Cramp 25 Lodger Single Stone, Worcestershire, Ag Lab

Cheers
Genni

[Rebecca Steele]

Ummmm ....... thats a possibility! Thanks for that!

Will have to check Ann out and see what her maiden name was!

Thanks Genni!

Chui

[Rebecca Steele]

Genni,

I think you may very well have hit the nail on the head with this one!

I have just done a search on a Ann Morgan and Henry Evans and come up with a marriage!

I had seen this census entry, but not noticed that the Wife Ann was also born in Castlemorton!

Thank you very much! It just shows you never know where your next result will come from!

Chui

[gennig]

Hi Chui

Glad I could help.

Here's the 1891 census for Thomas.

RG12/2305 Folio: 59 Page: 26
Norton Road, Norton Common, Upper Swinford

Joseph Smart Head 41 Gloucestershire Gen Lab (can't decipher place of birth)
Mary A Smart Wife 46 Pedmore Worcestershire Laundress
Thomas Morgan Uncle 64 Widower Castlemorton Worcestershire Agricultural Labourer
John H Humphrey Nephew 1 Gloucestershire (can't decipher place of birth)
Alice Brooks Servant 1? Gloustershire Assistant Laundress

In 1881 census
RG11/2941 Fol: 6 page: 4
Quarry Hill, Pedmore
Joseph Smart 32  Head Gloucestershire Ag Lab
Mary A. Smart 36  Wife Pedmore, Worcestershire Laundress
Louisa Morgan 13 Visitor  ?astnor, Herefordshire (Christopher’s daughter, Mabybe)
Next Door
Henry Evans 60 Head Churchill Worcstershire Farm Bailiff
Ann Evans 60 Wife Castlemorton
Sarah Evans 24 Daughter Single Pedmore Worcestershire

Cheers
Genni

[Nemo]

Hello Chui

Go to
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:4_-pyCjv4uwJ:freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wrag44/eldersfield/eldersfield.htm+Eldersfield+parish+registers&hl=en

There you will find that on 2 November 1834 William the son of Philip and Elizabeth Morgan was baptised at Eldersfield.

Further searches on this excellent website should help prove if there is a connection to your Morgans.

HTH

Nemo