CHORLEY families, wiveliscombe somerset

[Winalape]

Hi Jane
Thank you so much for getting back to me. I too had the information about John and Elizabeth and I wonder whether William was actually John because I haven't found a death for John yet but by Williams marriage and death certificates he would have been born about the same time as John. Boy how confusing our ancestors made some things. Do you have the 1881 Census by any chance to know if John was still in Wiveliscombe at that time or the 1851 census which should name the three children if William was his real name?
The only information I have for William is that he came to Aus about 1856/57 under the name of William Collins.  He married Sarah James in Geelong in 1860 and he died in 1912 in Toorak Melbourne Vic. His marriage and death certificates name his parents as John Collins and Mary Venn. He says he was born in Wiveliscombe, and by his age, in 1831.
I would really appreciate if you can help me.
Once again from Australia Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Lyn

[Jane Richards]

Hi Lyn

Something interesting has turned up on the 1841 census.  There is no sign of JOhn or Mary yet but their daughter is staying with a William and Jane Chorley.  This could be her grandparents.  On the birth entry for John it said his mothers name was Jane and she was a Spinster.  So was William Johns father.

1841  Wivelsicombe

Jane Chorley b abt 1871 Wiveliscombe
William Chorley b abt 1786
Elizabeth Chorley b abt 1826

1851 Wiveliscombe

John Collins age 57  Labourer
Mary age 60    WI Nurse
Elizabeth age 21
John age 23.

Still not sure where Mary was born and no sign of William

If anything else turns up I will lwt you know

[maddison]

Hi Jane and Lyn - I am also interested in Chorley family in Somerset - in Wellington, Taunton, Wiveliscombe and Chipstable areas - especially children of John Chorley:  Eliza b/1852, Caroline b/1855, Thomas b/1862, Mary b/1863, John b/1865, Jane b/1872.  Do you think there may be a connection to your Chorleys? Maddison.

[Jane Richards]

Hi Maddison

There could well be a link with your Chorley family and Mine.  My Chorley's all came from the Wiveliscombe area and the Milverton areas of Somerset.  I have done quite a lot of research around this family and believe that their is a link between most of the Chorley families in this area through either birth or marriage.

What you need to do is start going back through the census and find out if any of your chorley's come from Wiveliscome or milverton area and then we might be able to find that link.  Some of the parish records for Somerset are on line which could help you when you get a little further back.

If you need any help please let me know.  I do not have access to ancestry for the census but if you put a request on here I am sure someone will help you.

All the best

Jane

[maddison]

Hi Jane, yes, it seems that most of the Chorleys in the Taunton/Wiveliscombe/Wellington areas are related - just have to find the connection.  Thank you, I had the marriage of John Chorley b/1865 and Ann Elizabeth Dunn b/1864.  Think John and his cousin may have been employed on the Railways. 

My difficulty is in working out just who were their children so have made a request for census look-ups.  John had a sister, Jane, b/1872 Upton, and three step-sisters:
Eliza b/1852, Chipstable
Caroline b/1855 Bampton - where there were a lot of Chorleys - probably cousins.
Mary, b/1863, Chipstable
and 1 stepbrother: Thomas, b/1862, Wellington.
So far haven't found marriages for any of these.  Perhaps we can find a connection somewhere.  Regards.  Maddison.

[Craig Chorley]

Hi, I don't know if anyone will read this because this thread in quite old.

I've just made a connection with someone who has figured out our joint relative to be a William Paramore Chorley, 1841. William Paramore was apparently born in Exton, Somerset. Willam Paramore's father however, Francis Chorley, 1803, may have been born in Wiveliscombe because his father, William Chorley, 1771 was born and married (Mary Widlake/Wedlake) in Wiveliscombe as had his father William Chorley, who married Joan in Wiveliscombe in 28/8/1770.

So if this is all correct then there are at least two William Chorleys and possibly a Francis Chorley from Wiveliscombe and a William Paramore Chorley (my great great granddad), along with brothers Robert and Francis, born in Exton.

If that is any help then please let me know. I would desperately like to find out more about the Chorleys from this area, since it seems this is were my line of Chorleys comes from.

Our Chorleys eventually move to south east london, however, ironically my Granddad joined the army and posted to the Somerset Light Infantry, back down in Taunton!

[Jane Richards]

HI Craig

I have just looked into your family tree and I think I may be getting a bit confused over who is the father of who.  Please could you put me straight.

This is what I found in the parish records.

William Chorley married Joan Collard on 28/ 8/1770 in Wiveliscombe.  This is in the parish records.

Possible children for them include:
Mary baptised 3/2/1771 (a little bit soon after marriage)
William baptised 23 May 1771
Ann 9 Feb 1772
JOan 26 Dec 1772  ? buried 20 Jan 1773
Thomas 16 Oct 1774
Peggy 19 April 1778
??Willliam 27 June 1779

? Mum Joan was buried 22 July 1781 (states widow of William)

Williams son William born 1771 married Mary in Wiveliscombe.  There is no sign of this marriage in the parish records.  If you can give me any more information I will see what I can find out for you.

Also there is no sign of a Francis born 1803 in Wiveliscombe parish records

All the best

Jane

[Craig Chorley]

Hi Jane,

I'm only just starting to look into this myself, so I'm not clear what the story is yet, but I think Francis Chorley got married in Exton, I think that is also where William and Mary baptised their kids, at least.

http://www.wsom.org.uk/Parreg.html

My best guess is William (born c1770) and Mary married in Wiveliscombe and baptised there kids:

William     Chorley     William/Mary     Exton     Farmer     26     4     1813     born 7.6.1798
Jane    Chorley    William/Mary    Exton    Farmer    26    4    1813    born 16.1.1801
Harriot    Chorley    William/Mary    Exton    Farmer    26    4    1813    born 31.5.1802
Francis    Chorley    William/Mary    Exton    Farmer    26    4    1813    born 12.7.1803
Robert    Chorley    William/Mary    Exton    Farmer    26    4    1813    born 28.2.1805
Anne    Chorley    William/Mary    Exton    Farmer    26    4    1813    born 26.9.1807

..in Exton. My next best guess is that Francis son of William married Eliza Ward Paramore in 1839, to which we get William Paramore Chorley born 1841. William Paramore begat Robert Thomas Percical Chorley who begat Albert Leonard Lovebond Chorley who is my granddad.

So it seems, if I'm right, I may be related to William and Mary Chorley, so the next question is, who is this William's parents? Maybe William and Joan?

Got to go to work, but I'll keep looking.

I found there is a Chorley's Farm in Wilveliscombe, its beautiful! And its for sale at the moment. If I had the £700,000 I'd buy it!


Craig

[Jane Richards]

Hi Craig

Unfortunately you have a confusing family which is going to take a while to so out.  So lets see what we have.

 Francis Chorley married Eliza Ward from Minehead on either 7/10/1836 or 18/3/1839 in Exton.  The record in 1839 states she has possibly been married before and gives her fathers name as Thomas Paramore, who is a farmer.

Francis and Eliza children:

Robert 9/4/1840 Triscombe, Exton
William Paramore chorley 20/4/1841Triscombe Exton
William Paramore 11/8/1842 Tiscombe Exton

Francis Parents were William Chorley and Mary Widlake who married in Exton 21/1/1794

Children include:

JOan and Mary twins born 29/3/1796.  Joan was privately baptised on 18/4/1795
Harriett b23/1/1797 Buried 17/3/1798
William bap 7/6/1798
Jane b 16/1/1801 bap26/1/1801
Herriot b 31/5/1802  bap 10/11/1802
Francis b 12/07/1803  bap 18/07/1803
Robert b28/02/1805  bap 1/05/1805
Anne b 26/09/1807  bap 28/10/1807
Eliza b25/12/1810  bap 10/02/1811 buried 1/4/1811

You believe that the parents of William Chorley (who married Mary Widlake ) came from Wiveliscombe and were called William and Joan. This could be William Chorley and Joan Colllard who marrried on28/8/1770 in Wiveliscombe.  there is however another possibility.  William Chorley and Joan Langdon who married in Exton in 25/3/1769.  The records state that he came from Wiveliscombe. 

Possible children for either of them.  are

Mary bap 3/2/1771 in Wiveliscombe
William bap 23/5/1771 Wiveliscombe
Ann 9/2/1772
Joan 26/12/1772 buried 20/1/1773
Thomas 16/10/1774
Peggy 19/04/01778
William 27/06/1779

Joan collard was buried 22/07/1781 in Wivelsicombe

Joan Chorley nee Langdon was buried 17/05/1773 and her brother Robert Langdon was buried 22/05/1773 in Exton.  So at a guess The William born/bap 3/2/1771 was William and Joan Langdons son.  There are no births for Chorley in Exton for a William and Joan so I guess she moved to Wiveliscombe.

Thats all I have for now.  Have a look and see what you think.

All the best

Jane