Gyvelia

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hi,
I have a relative who's married name is Elizabeth Cowap born 1814. on the 1861 census it states that she was born in Gyvelia derbyshire.
Anyone heard of this or could suggest this as a mis-spelling for somewhere else?

Peter

[Gardener]

Hi Peter
I think it is actually "Denbyshire" - the 1851 has Denbighshire, Gyrelia. It must be Gyfelia which is just south of Wrexham

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1851
HO107/2170-110
Tarporley
Sch no 113
Henry Cowap,head,m,39,painter,self only,Cheshire,Tarporley
Elizabeth Cowap,wife,m,39,Denbighshire,Gyrelia/Gifrelia
George Cowap,son,15,Lancashire,Manchester
William Cowap,son,5,Cheshire,Tarporley
Elizabeth Cowap,dau,4,Cheshire,Tarporley
Amos Cowap,son,2,Cheshire,Tarporley

Sch 110 has Thomas Cowap,32,painter and glazier,2 men 1 app,Cheshire,Tarporley
His wife is Mary also a Denbighshire girl, born Llon??

Let me know if you would like the full details of that family.

Just noticed too that Henry and son Amos were "on the job" in 1861 as they are also recorded at another address, farm at Noctorum.

[hheapet]

hi,
thanks for that great bit of information and yes i would like the family of Thomas. Yuo mention Amos, I have been trying to track him. There is a single Amos on 1861 and 71 also 91 and 01 but not 81. he was married then but amybe he was working away and not registered.

Peter

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Here you go. I'll send you the lot!

1851
Thomas Cowap,head,m,32,painter and glazur 27 men 1 app,Cheshire,Tarporley
Mary Cowap,wife,m,35,Denbighshire,Llo??'
Elizabeth Ann Cowap,dau,7,scholar,Cheshire,Tarporley
Charles Henry Cowap,son,4,scholar,Cheshire,Tarporley
John Arthur Cowap,2,Cheshire,Tarporley

1861
Rg9/2621-10
Henry Cowap,head,m,48,painter & paper hanger,Cheshire,Tarporley
Elizabeth Cowap,wife,m,47,Denbighshire,Gifelia
William Cowap,s,u,16,labourer,Cheshire,Tarporley
Elizabeth Cowap,dau,14,scholar,Cheshire,Tarporley
Amos Cowap,son,11,scholar,Cheshire,Tarporley
Herbert Cowap,son,6,scholar,Cheshire,Tarporley


1861
Rg9/2647-98
Noctorum
Farm & houses
Richard Jackson,head,40,farmer of 350 acres
plus family and servants
Henry Cowap,serv,m,47,house painter,Cheshire,Tarporley
Amos Cowap,serv,unm,11,painters boy,Cheshire,Tarporley

1871
Rg10/3715-31
New Road,Tarporley
Henry Cowap,head,m,58,painter and stainer master,Cheshire,Tarporley
Martha Cowap,wife,m,40,Cheshire,Utkinton?
Amos Cowap,son,unm,21,paperhanger & painter journeyman,Cheshire,Tarporley
Arthur Cowap,son,8,at home,Cheshire,Tarporley
Emma Cowap,dau,5,at home,Cheshire,Tarporley
Agnes Cowap,dau,3,Cheshire,Tarporley
Alice Cowap,dau,11m,Cheshire,Tarporley

Now why should Amos be at home and unmarried if he married Mary Ann Pownall in 1870?
I can't find Amos in 1881 either. But Mary Ann is housekeeper to her brother - was he recently widowed perhaps?

Then by 1891 Amos must have died as Mary Ann is remarried

1891
Rg12/3078-128
125 Mersey St
Joseph Wadsworth? ,head,60,provision dealer,Lancs,Warrington
Mary A  W,wife,m,46,Lancs,Warrington
Elizabeth A Cowap,stepdau,s,19,dress maker,Cheshire,Tarporley
Joseph  W,son,5,Lancs,Pendlton?
Eda W ,dau,3,Lancs,Warrington
Flora W ,dau,8m,Lancs,Warrington
Lilly Cowap,servant,14,domestic,serv,Cheshire,Ordean?

Confusing lot you have!

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this side is reasonable, i have several out of wedlock, one forced to give birth in an orphanage due to a daliance with the master and also a doctor who was a charged and hung for murder on the other side.
Fun aint it

Peter