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Re: my elusive ancestors HELP
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 09:54 GMT (UK) »
I only have a BMD for my grt grandmother Mary,I know her mother Mabel renwick was born in alnwick,her dad Thomas was born Ireland, but all their children were born berwick ,I doubt very much that Thomas and mable were married in ireland
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Dumfrieshire,Wilson,Maxwell,Lammie,Cowan,Young,

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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 09:56 GMT (UK) »
1881 census has Thomas born Ireland and Mabel born Alnwick
children recorded as born Berwickshire, Scotland

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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Yes that's right,that is the info I have in my records
Ayrshire,Kennedy,Faulds,Cuthbert,Crawford,Young,Edgar,Bell
Dundee,Nicol,Cant,Kennedy,Jamison,
Dumfrieshire,Wilson,Maxwell,Lammie,Cowan,Young,

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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 10:03 GMT (UK) »
Mary's birth registered in England

Mary Crumlish Dec qtr 1871 Berwick RD

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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 10:08 GMT (UK) »
1861 census Berwick

William Crumlish 46   Head
Mary Crumlish 30   Wife
Thomas Crumlish   19   Son b Ireland
Mary Crumlish 8   Daughter

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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 10:11 GMT (UK) »
1871 census
Berwick

Thomas Crumlish   26   Head b Ireland
Mabel Crumlish 28   Wife
James Schofield 4   Son
Thomas Schofield 5   Son
Ann Crumlish 2   Daughter

Are the Schofield children, Mabel's, from a previous marriage?

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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 10:17 GMT (UK) »
As far as I know Mabel was married to Thomas Schofield before she met Thomas crumlish,I seem to remember Thomas died,I am going to have to get my records out that I put away about 5 years ago,my memory is not as good as it used to be
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Dundee,Nicol,Cant,Kennedy,Jamison,
Dumfrieshire,Wilson,Maxwell,Lammie,Cowan,Young,

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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 10:28 GMT (UK) »
There are no Cr*m*l* births registered in Berwickshire in the 19th century.

According to the GRO web site the following are registered in Alnwick
James Schofield 1862/Sep/10b/296 mmn Renwick
Thomas Schofield 1864/Dec/10b/297 mmn Renwick

and in Berwick
Mary 1869/June/10b/355 mmn Renwick
Mary 1871/Dec/10b/334 mmn Renwick
Susannah 1880/Mar/10b/380 mmn Renwick

The 1871 census lists in Chapel Street, Berwick
Thomas Crumlish, 26, born Ireland
Mabel Crumlish, wife, born Alnwick
James Schofield, son, 7, born Alnwick
Thomas Schofield, son, 5, born Alnwick
Ann Crumlish, daughter, 2 born Berwick

Neither the GRO nor FreeBMD appears to have a listing for the birth of Nellie/Hel(l)en in 1871-1875.
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 22 February 23 10:38 GMT (UK) »
That's strange why there's no entry for Nellie,she appears on census records,I just got the folder out for them,mables first husband died in 1901,I dont have a death certificate but I do for Thomas crumlish,he died 8th February 1913 at 20 chapel street berwick,his son in law James Lyons was the informant, Thomas was 68 years old when he died
Ayrshire,Kennedy,Faulds,Cuthbert,Crawford,Young,Edgar,Bell
Dundee,Nicol,Cant,Kennedy,Jamison,
Dumfrieshire,Wilson,Maxwell,Lammie,Cowan,Young,
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