dead end in Camberwell

[mc8]

Richard Kemp (b1849) married Nora (b abt 1851, Camberwell) and produced Richard on 12.2.1876 at Picton Street Camberwell. On the birth certificate, Norah's first name is given as Roe, but I haven't been able to trace any records for her birth or their marriage (probably before first born William c1872). I've tried Row, Rowe

Can anyone offer any suggestions?

[Barbara F]

Hello mc8
I have had a quick look at the 1871 census and Richard appears to be at home with his parents - father is Richard a hawker. Also on the 1871 is a Nora Rowe aged 18 b Camberwell the wife of Frederick Rowe also 18, a bricklayer.
Free BMD shows the death of a Frederick Stephen Rowe aged 19 in June 1871.
If Rowe is Nora's married name that would explain why you cannot find her birth.
There does not seem to be a marriage for Richard and Nora on free BMD yet.
If you think I could be on the right track I can let you have the 1871 census details.
Barbara

[mc8]

Hello mc8
I have had a quick look at the 1871 census and Richard appears to be at home with his parents - father is Richard a hawker.

that's my Richard
Also on the 1871 is a Nora Rowe aged 18 b Camberwell the wife of Frederick Rowe also 18, a bricklayer.
Free BMD shows the death of a Frederick Stephen Rowe aged 19 in June 1871.
If Rowe is Nora's married name that would explain why you cannot find her birth.
There does not seem to be a marriage for Richard and Nora on free BMD yet.
If you think I could be on the right track I can let you have the 1871 census details.
Barbara

now that is why Rootschat is such a brilliant forum-I hadn't thought of that 

could you send me the details-it just might be the way forward
thanks
Monique

[Barbara F]

Monique

Here is Richard
2 Henley Place, James Street, Camberwell
Richard Kemp Head 50 Hawker b Surrey Camberwell
Emma Wife 46 Hawkers Wife b Surrey Camberwell
Richard Son 22 Hawker b Surrey Camberwell

Not sure whether Henley is correct name - the writing is unclear.

Here is Nora
6 Alma Terrace, Lambeth

Frederick Rowe Head 18 Bricklayer b Surrey Southwark
Nora Wife 18 b Surrey Camberwell


There is this marriage on Free BMD
Marriages Mar 1871
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Clements  Sarah    St Saviour  1d 71   
Palmer  Henry     St Saviour  1d 71   
Rowe  Frederick     St Saviour  1d 71   
Toughey  Norah     St Saviour  1d 71

Barbara

[mc8]

I guess its possible-but Lambeth was a long way away for this family who only moved three miles in 100 years. The free BMD marriage records look at though they are now complete for this period-without the marriage record for Richard and Norah, it may well stay a dead end