Birth

[myscotia]

Looking for birth of John SCOTT. 
I have his marriage to Helen Gray at St Cuthberts Edinburgh April 18th. 1842.
His death in Edinburgh 1880.  His occupation was Baker.
He had two sons,  John and Gilbert.
This is my brick wall and I would appreciate any assistance.
Thanks,  Bob.

[maidmarianoops]

i have been walkabout
disjointed info
       Scotland
      Roll of Edinburgh Burgesses & Guild Brethren
 John Scott     baker B as p. to John Mason  baker B 07 Nov 1783

 John Scott mt. in Leith, who was made B. and G upon the 13 Nov
1809  having been charged only 12 pounds 10shillings in place of 25 pound the difference is now charged 11 Mar 181

Register of Apprenticies
 John Scott s of late Robert baker in Calton to John Mason baker
for 5 years 6 Jul 1770
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  HELEN GRAY father gilbert gray
       JOHN SCOTT
Marriage:  18 APR 1842    Edinburgh
christening
john scott 29 apr 1820 father james scott mother elizabeth fairbairn
Saint Cuthberts,

j/s6 july 1820 c Saint Cuthberts f cornelius scott m elizabeth constable
Saint Cuthberts
do these names fit
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gilbert scott
   Parents:
              Father:  john scott
              Mother:  helen gray
Birth:  28 JUN 1849   South Leith Midl
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coincidences

      Helen Brown Effingham Scott
B   16 Dec 1886
      EdinburghMid
 d       22 Apr 1964
      Balclutha  New Zealand
     b   Apr 1964
       Marriage
     s  Hosdell Theophilus Gray   
     m  17 Sep 1917 
      Dunedin New Zealand
just for interest sorry about shortcuts in typing
sylvia

[myscotia]

To maidmarianoops,
                                   Can we be sure that the James Scott and Elizabeth Fairbairn are the parents of
John Scott who married Helen Gray in April 18th. 1842 ?.  If not, how can we find the parents?

[maidmarianoops]

hello ,with genealogy we cannot be sure of even who we are.
sorrrrryyyyy my weird sense of humour.
I HAVE SEND THE TWO SETS OF PARENTS HOPING YOU RECOGNIZE A FAMILY NAME.
SYLVIA


1841 census
GRAY Helen   15    Midlothian

1841 census
   John Scott       20     Baker Jrnymn      Midlothian
 Andrew Scott      15     Carter      Midlothian
 David Scott      14     Printer Apprentice
Midlothian

[maidmarianoops]

stranger things have happened at sea
sylvia

John Sturrock
born Ab1793    Midlothian Scotland

Marriage
Helen Gray  15 JUN 1818
sylvia
from lds
i am trying to follow this through

[dkmcad]

His death in Edinburgh 1880. 

Probably a stupid question, Bob, but did you get John Scott's death certificate?  Should have parents' names   Or....did the death certificate have no parents' names included

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/


Regards, Dorothy

[myscotia]

No. I don,t have the death certificate.  Would this be guaranteed to have his birth date and parents names ?.  And from where would this be available?.
Regards, Bob.

[JAP]

Hi Bob,

You can download the death cert from the site given by dkmcad - ScotlandsPeople at:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

IF the informant knew the information, the death certificate should have John's age, the name and occupation of his father, and the name and maiden surname of his mother.

There is information about the contents of certificates on the ScotlandsPeople site.

Another good source of information about research in Scotland is in the posts at the top of the Scotland-General board.  Especially a couple of posts by Boongie Pam at:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,24468.0.html

JAP 

[myscotia]

The 1841 census you sent with John, Andrew and David.  What was the address and parents names, occupations etc.These are all family names and John's occupation of baker also fits.
Regards,  Bob.