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Offline Pollynation

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1911 census
« on: Wednesday 09 November 05 21:09 GMT (UK) »
I know there has been many debates about this subject and if it should be released for the public, but look at what i just found:-

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"Fears that the National Archives is unlawfully preventing Freedom of Information access to the UK 1911 census
 
 By Denis McCready
 
Parliament abolished the 100-year census closure rule when it passed the Freedom of Information Act 2000. But, for reasons that aren’t immediately obvious, the government has kept this important change in the law secret for more than 5 years and the National Archives seems to be trying to impose a new, unlawful,100-year closure rule.
 
On 7 June 2005, Harriet Harman MP, a minister, confirmed (in House of Commons Written Answer 1845) that Schedule 5 of the Freedom of Information Act 2000 abolished Instrument No. 12 (1966) and the 100-year closure rule for ALL English & Welsh census records, with effect from 1st January 2005. Ms Harman said:
 
Under the Freedom of Information Act 2000, extended closure Instrument No. 12 of 1966 ceases to apply.
 
Before it was abolished, Instrument No. 12 of 1966 stated that Decennial Census records held by the Public Record Office/National Archives (but NOT those held by the Registrar General) shall be closed to inspection for 100 years. So we now know for certain that the old 100-year closure period was abolished by the Freedom of Information Act.
 
But anyone who asks the National Archives about the 1911 Census and the 100-year closure rule could be in for a big surprise. Here's an example of what can happen. Janette Byers of Bootle, Merseyside L20 7DF, emailed the NA, saying: Are there any plans for the information contained in the 1911 census UK being released? I understand that the 100 year rule has been abolished. Edward Hampshire, Remote Enquiries Duty Officer at the NA, replied by implying that Ms Harman’s statement on 7 June 2005 was not true. So who should we believe, Harriet Harman or Edward Hampshire?"


Just wondered what are your thoughts? Is it true the 100 year rule was abolished?

Best wishes
Pauline


Atkinson/Mountney/Gardner/Mellor/Finch/Higham-Lancashire
Cooper/Price-Shropshire
Lund/Foster/Wilkinson/Crawforth-Yorkshire
Calvert-Durham


Whoever said seek and ye shall find was NOT a genealogist.

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 November 05 21:24 GMT (UK) »
Well we all could email her and ask

harmanh@parliament.uk

http://www.harrietharman.labour.co.uk/

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Ken

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 November 05 21:27 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D ;D

Hi,



The name in the letter re the 1911 census Jan Byers of Bootle is me!

Where did you find this info?

Oooh am I famous yet! thanks for posting that.

All the best
Jan
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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 November 05 21:33 GMT (UK) »
Oooh Jan!

You're a published author! (Assuming that has been printed..!)

Can I have your autograph?   ;)  (Also details of my rellies on the 1911)

Angelfish
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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 November 05 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jan

http://home.clara.net/denis.mccready/  is the link for the web page i found this info on. I never thought that the person mentioned would already be on rootschat.

I am going to e-mail  Harriet Harman MP and see what happens.
Best wishes
Pauline
Atkinson/Mountney/Gardner/Mellor/Finch/Higham-Lancashire
Cooper/Price-Shropshire
Lund/Foster/Wilkinson/Crawforth-Yorkshire
Calvert-Durham


Whoever said seek and ye shall find was NOT a genealogist.

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 November 05 21:42 GMT (UK) »
There has been more talk of the 1911 census at this RootsChat link:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,1840



Including a link to Harriet Harman's stand on the issue:

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2005-10-24a.19844.h

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 November 05 21:51 GMT (UK) »
I doubt if i will get an answer, this is what i have just recieved back.

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Thank you for sending an email to Harriet Harman QC, Member of
Parliament for Camberwell and Peckham. Emails are treated in the same
manner and with the same level of importance as other communications,
i.e. post, telephone and fax.
 
We will be in touch with you shortly.
 
Parliamentary protocol dictates that a Member of Parliament can only
deal with issues of behalf of their own constituents. Please ensure that
you have included in your email your name and full postal address. If
this was not included in your email, please re-send with a full postal
address.


I do not live in her area >:( >:(
 How do i find my MP?

Best wishes
Pauline
Atkinson/Mountney/Gardner/Mellor/Finch/Higham-Lancashire
Cooper/Price-Shropshire
Lund/Foster/Wilkinson/Crawforth-Yorkshire
Calvert-Durham


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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 November 05 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Well we all could email her and ask

harmanh@parliament.uk

http://www.harrietharman.labour.co.uk/

Regards
Ken
I did -I'll let you know the reply


******didn't see the reply before I posted. I'm researching Camberwell and Peckham but don't live there. Does anyone on this forum?Somehow I doubt it

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Re: 1911 census
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 November 05 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Want to find your MP ?

Try this link:
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/