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Heigh/Armstrong, Kirkby Lonsdale
« on: Tuesday 15 November 05 16:12 GMT (UK) »
I have a Sarah Heigh, maiden name Armstrong, born in 1864 Bewcastle. Cumberland
In the 1891 Census she is living with her husband Charles and children in Kirkby Lonsdale.
Does any one have any further information about her or her parents. Particularly her mother Charters?

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: Heigh/Armstrong, Kirkby Lonsdale
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 15 November 05 16:29 GMT (UK) »
1871  census

Nether Hill, ....(?) Cottage, Bellbank Cumberland

Christopher Armstrong, Head age 41, Mason born Nichol Forest, Cumberland
Sarah Armstrong,wife age 46 son born Stapleton, Cumberland
John Armstrong,son age 16, born  Bewcastle, Cumberland
Cathrine Armstrong,dau age 9 born Bewcastle, Cumberland
Margaret Armstrong,dau age 7 born Bewcastle, Cumberland
Sarah Armstrong, dau age 4 born 1864  Bewcastle, Cumberland

 
 RG10/5212 Longtown Folio 34 Page 2

Do you have marriage cert to verify father's name?
There is also another Sarah Armstrong born Bewcastle, age 7, father William, a Farmer

Tricia
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Heigh/Armstrong, Kirkby Lonsdale
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 15 November 05 16:46 GMT (UK) »
This looks like her birth reference. Bewcastle registers in Longtown

ARMSTRONG, Sarah
 Birth Quarter ending June 1864
Longtown
10b
409

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Heigh/Armstrong, Kirkby Lonsdale
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 15 November 05 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again for that but I have had a search done at the records office and she is not the right one! The parents do not match up. I think there was another Sarah Armstrong born that year in that area.

I am at a bit of a loss with this as the family didn't seem to like registering anything officially.

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey


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Re: Heigh/Armstrong, Kirkby Lonsdale
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 15 November 05 16:53 GMT (UK) »
Could you tell us who her parents are, please
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Heigh/Armstrong, Kirkby Lonsdale
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 15 November 05 17:03 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tricia

Her parents are
William Armstrong b Bewcastle 1832
and Charters????

There is nothing else about Charters. However I believe her to be a Charters Jackson b 1833  Hutton & Corrie Scotland and I know quite a bit about her & her family. She had an illegitimate daughter Agnes who I believe William married after she died. I am wanting to prove this but can find very little factual evidence.

Any ideas, facts etc. gratefully received.

Love the picture of your ancestor.

Judy
CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey

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Re: Heigh/Armstrong, Kirkby Lonsdale
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 15 November 05 17:18 GMT (UK) »
Was the illegimate daughter called Agnes Routledge?
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Heigh/Armstrong, Kirkby Lonsdale
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 November 05 17:28 GMT (UK) »
I am 99% positive that Agnes Routledge is the child of Chartres.

She is married to William born 1832 and has a daughter called Charters on the 1881 census. She has the same details as a Agnes Routledge that I have found as Stepdaughter to William.

Tricia
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Heigh/Armstrong, Kirkby Lonsdale
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 15 November 05 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Well that is another little twist.

The illegitimate daughter was called Agnes Jackson but I think that they did not want to say that to the enumerator because of the relationship but the supposition is that they were one and the same person!!! I can find no Agnes Routledge born around then at all.

 Also another little twist is that he had already married Agnes at Gretna Green in Oct 1870 (before the Census) She put her maiden name down as Armstrong then and also lied about her age. She was in fact 16 in the 1871 Census. She changed to her correct age around the 1891 Census and on later marriage certificates.

I have her birth Cert (passed down through the family) & death Cert and family recall to prove this and her 2 other marriage certs.


That is why I thought if I tried to go through another branch of the family they may have other evidence as to the surname of Charters.

I hope you can follow all this as it is quite complicated. They were quite a rum lot I think!

Judy


CUMBERLAND  Armstrong Little Nixon Richardson Pearson Watson Braithwaite
WESTMORLAND  Richardson Dent Nicholson Hanson Kersey Smith Heigh
DURHAM Reed Smith Reay Hammond Metcalf Bell
Thompson Armstrong Branford Parkin Heaton Oates
NORTHUMB'LAND Nixon Johnson Armstrong Branford Thompson
DUMFRIES Armstrong Bell Halliday Little Carruthers Johnstone
YORKS Richardson Branford Siddle
ROXBURGH Jackson Elliot Armstrong Scott
FIFE Adamson Gosman Brown
AUSTRALIA Richardson Dent Hanson Kersey