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Re: London Newspapers in 1823
« Reply #27 on: Friday 25 November 05 06:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Kev and Kristy,

Welcome on board.

Kristy,
James's Smirnove was born as Jack Linitsky in Russian in 1767 and was a son of a priest from a small village, that now is on the territory of Ukraine.
But on entering Russian Civil Service he was "advised" to change the surname because it sounded Ukrainian and was not welcomed by Russian Authorities of thet time.

More information on this is on http://www.pnc.com.au/~voyager/voyagerfiles/tree.htm

Kristy,
Do you have access to The Times of 1823?
I am desperately looking for Victor Touloubeoff Obituary.

Mike

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« Reply #28 on: Friday 25 November 05 08:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike,

Sorry I thought you already had this link for The Times. 

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,86255.0.html

I put my Dutch address in and it still worked!!

Anna :)
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br /><br />names: <br />Josolyne - Essex & Herts, <br />Wainwright - Hamps & London, <br />Kentish - Rotherhithe, London & Kent, <br />Herbert - Seaford, Sussex - London & Glous
Mumford - Essex, Birchanger
Sims-Miles - London & Hertfordshire
Cooper - Great Witley and London (Holborn)
Greengrass - Kent & London

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« Reply #29 on: Friday 25 November 05 09:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Anna
Regret to confess, but I am nuts.
I have registered, received card number  and PIN, but how to get to The Times archives? :-[

Mike (with hope for improvement)

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« Reply #30 on: Friday 25 November 05 09:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike,

I had the same problems as well ;D

Click on Bedfordshire Virtual Libraries, (located on Home Page)
The click on Informatio Reference (left hand side)
Then select newspapers online
Scroll down enter pin codes
Then Select Times Archive Online

Anna :)
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br /><br />names: <br />Josolyne - Essex & Herts, <br />Wainwright - Hamps & London, <br />Kentish - Rotherhithe, London & Kent, <br />Herbert - Seaford, Sussex - London & Glous
Mumford - Essex, Birchanger
Sims-Miles - London & Hertfordshire
Cooper - Great Witley and London (Holborn)
Greengrass - Kent & London


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Re: London Newspapers in 1823
« Reply #31 on: Friday 25 November 05 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Below is more information that I have found, though you probably have it already!!

GenForum

I am looking to find a link between the English family LIBBIS, a possible connection with a German family name Liebitz (could sound the same), and the Empress Maria Feodorovna of Russia, wife of the ill-fated Paul I.
Georgiana Libbis married Nicolai Tulubiev (several spellings in English) in 1799 in Great Yarmouth.
Nicolai had been admitted to the Portsmouth Naval School on the direct personal intervention of the Empress.
In 1823 the Empress sent a letter of condolence to John Libbis, father of Georgiana, after, it seems, Georgiana, Nicolai and their son Victor were all deceased.
Nicolai and Georgiana had a baby called FEODOSIA shortly after their marriage -- surely named for the Empress.
I want to know more, more, more about young Nicolai, his family and what happened to him. Thanks, Mary
Does anyone have any ideas please.
Mary



The TULUBIEV's are listed as untitled nobility of Russian Empire.

You might be able to get some answers here. Scroll down to request form.

GENEALOGY - NOBILITY - RUSSIA and RUSSIAN EMPIRE
http://www.geocities.com/tfboettger/research/russia.htm


Young Tulub'ev married an English girl, and fought at sea through the Napoleonic Wars, and was an inspiration to the family at the time, then dropped out of the information bank.


Baptisms, St Nicholas Church, Great Yarmouth. 1799

LIBBIS, Feodosia Tulubiev John + Mary

late MORRIS


Burials 1799, St Nicholas, Great Yarmouth.  (Lots of Russians, probably from visiting ships – as you are researching Russian seamen I thought this might be of interest)

http://www.doun.org/transcriptions/documents.php?district_id=10&document_id=24233


Anna :)
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br /><br />names: <br />Josolyne - Essex & Herts, <br />Wainwright - Hamps & London, <br />Kentish - Rotherhithe, London & Kent, <br />Herbert - Seaford, Sussex - London & Glous
Mumford - Essex, Birchanger
Sims-Miles - London & Hertfordshire
Cooper - Great Witley and London (Holborn)
Greengrass - Kent & London

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Re: London Newspapers in 1823
« Reply #32 on: Friday 25 November 05 09:23 GMT (UK) »
Anna,
Thanks :)
Mike


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« Reply #33 on: Friday 25 November 05 09:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Anna

Thanks A LOT for the last link. :-*
A lot of work to do!
Even do not have time to make coffee.

Mike

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« Reply #34 on: Friday 25 November 05 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike,

Glad to be of help, my g.grandfather was a Captain RN, G.Uncle a Brig. Gen, Army and my husband is Dutch Navy, not to mention that I worked for the MOD for many years -  I find it fascinating!!

Anna :)
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk<br /><br />names: <br />Josolyne - Essex & Herts, <br />Wainwright - Hamps & London, <br />Kentish - Rotherhithe, London & Kent, <br />Herbert - Seaford, Sussex - London & Glous
Mumford - Essex, Birchanger
Sims-Miles - London & Hertfordshire
Cooper - Great Witley and London (Holborn)
Greengrass - Kent & London

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« Reply #35 on: Saturday 26 November 05 19:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi Anna,

I want to thank you again for your message with link http://www.doun.org/transcriptions/index.php
Besides more Russian seamen names, I can now make (try to make) a substantial part of the story.

So, as I see it now, there was Stepan Vasilievich Tolubeev,
sub-lieutenant of Russian Imperial Navy, born in 1741.
And he was married to Mavra Vasilievna and they had nine children.
One of them, Victor Tolubeef (not our hero) - do not have information
at that time, but sure will have.
The other, Irinarkh Tolubeev (died 1822)was a Commander (1811) of
Imperial Russian Navy who commanded Russian ships in Baltic and took
part as Captain of frigate Amphitrida in the siege of Danzig.
The third one, Nickolay Tolubeev, graduated in 1793 from the Naval
School.
The last one, is of interest to us.
The article from the site above tells the story about Great Yarmouth
Naval Hospital. There were a lot of Russian seamen at the hospital
recovering after unsuccessful joint British-Russian sortie against
French-Dutch troops at Texel and at least 218 of them died and were
buried at the Naval Hospital cemetery at Great Yarmouth.
But Nikolay Tulubeev was a lucky one. He survived. We can guess it
from the record about his marriage (under the name of Nicholas
Tulubier) with Georgiana Libbis on 27/12/1798 at St. Nicholas Church
at Great Yarmouth. Maybe it was a love at first sight, maybe as a gentleman
he had to marry Georgiana after their first daughter Feodosia was born
in 1797, prior their marriage but from now the families of Tulubeev
and Libbis goes together. Poor Feodosia first daughter of Nikolay and
Georgiana) died next year, in 1799 and from here the trace of
Nikolay Tolubeev is lost.
Now, we can only guess, that after healing his body, soul and heart in
Great Yarmouth, Nikolay Tolubeef returns home to Russia with his wife
Georgian.
At this point story interrupts till 1816, when Victor Tolubeef arrives on
board the Russian frigate Mercury to England to become a student of Royal
Naval College (ex-Royal Navy Academy) at Portsmouth (he becomes the
FIRST EVER FOREIGNER to enroll to this Academy).
By this time, he seems to be an orphan, and if the above is correct,
the graves of his father Nikolay Tolubeef and maybe his mother
(Nikolay's wife) Georgiana Libbis should be traced in Russia.
There is a hint, the place in Northen Russia, called Gorshevo, where
the ancestor of Tolubeev's was buried. I think, that I will make myself a birthday
present, and by the end of this year will go there, to search the place myself.

But again, the unsolved question is the location of Victor Tolubeef's
grave in England (London?)

Regards
Mike