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Re: Emma Hamlin
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 26 November 05 23:33 GMT (UK) »
No, I don't know about either of these.  How can I get further details?  I haven't had any success with 1837.com or with Ancestry.com.  Thanks, Emma
Anglesey & Denbigh: Hughes,Davies
Berks: Cheeseman,Monger,Hussey
Cornwall: Treloar/Trelowath
Devon: Hamlyn
Essex: Stace, Hummerstone, Dixon
Flint: Hooson
Herts: Woodcock
Kent: Jones, Bayley
Merioneth: Disley
Montgomery: Disley
Salop: Cleobury, Hotchkiss, Glover, Oswell
Suffolk: Howe,Spark,Gridley
Surrey:Street,Knight,Street
Yorks:Rich,Goodlad,Hargreaves
Wilts: Pike,House,Downe,Eyres,Cole,Appleford, Westhall,Cheesmund
London:Dixon,Steel,Planck,Debrauder,Hamlyn
Ireland:Sullivan, Egan

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Re: Emma Hamlin
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 27 November 05 08:10 GMT (UK) »
Emma Hamlyn b 1835 is already married to John with 2 children.

Jane is the wife of Henry John and also has 2 children.

I suspect this rules them both out?  There is no indication of a previous marriage?

;)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Emma Hamlin
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 27 November 05 08:28 GMT (UK) »
Have you got Emma & Lot on later censuses?

The only CHEESMAN (sic) children I can find who were born in Rusthall have parents Charles & Clara!  Also they are living in Sussex?!?

Can you post whatever you have please?

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Emma Hamlin
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 27 November 05 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi.  Yes, I think the two Devonian Emma/Jane Hamlyns are ruled out if they are already married.  Emma's marriage certificate clearly says 'spinster'.  Charles Lot Cheeseman remarried in Mar 1871 (Emma having died Feb 1870).  His new wife was Clara Verrall, the daughter of Henry Verrall (labourer), and they were both resident in Rusthall.  My guess is that, having been left with two children aged 3 and 5 (Emily, b.1865 and Charles, b.1867), and being a coachman, and living a long way from his own family who were still in Beenham, Berkshire, Lot needed a new wife and married Clara, a local girl.  (The Cheeseman men have been great remarryers over the generations - it's a family trait!).  I am descended through the younger of the two children, Charles (b. 1867), who was my mother's grandfather.  He became a butler and his son, Charles Henry (b. 1899), went into music (his father rightly calculated that this would be a way out of a life of being in service).  Charles Henry became principal double bass player in the Royal Philharmonic.  Incidentally, Charles Lot and Clara went on to have four more children - Robert (1873), Edwin Alfred (1875), Florence Bertha (1876) and Lionel B. (1880).  Best wishes, Emma
Anglesey & Denbigh: Hughes,Davies
Berks: Cheeseman,Monger,Hussey
Cornwall: Treloar/Trelowath
Devon: Hamlyn
Essex: Stace, Hummerstone, Dixon
Flint: Hooson
Herts: Woodcock
Kent: Jones, Bayley
Merioneth: Disley
Montgomery: Disley
Salop: Cleobury, Hotchkiss, Glover, Oswell
Suffolk: Howe,Spark,Gridley
Surrey:Street,Knight,Street
Yorks:Rich,Goodlad,Hargreaves
Wilts: Pike,House,Downe,Eyres,Cole,Appleford, Westhall,Cheesmund
London:Dixon,Steel,Planck,Debrauder,Hamlyn
Ireland:Sullivan, Egan


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Re: Emma Hamlin
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 27 November 05 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that Emma - now I can appreciate why you are having such a struggle with this one!

Hadn't previously tried HamBlyn, so might have another go with the additional B!!

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Emma Hamlin
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 27 November 05 11:36 GMT (UK) »
I've had another look for Emma/Jane in 1841 under every possible spelling variation I can think of but nothing. Big Jane tossing sacks of corn to a French boy remains the only likely candidate  ;D
Hope you can find her in 61 Arranroots :D What about Amlyn or even Omlyn? Going on my own experience of a devon farm Hawksdown being spelt Axdown and Oxdown on occasion.

Jan ;)
ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Emma Hamlin
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 27 November 05 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Trying another tack, looking for her father in 1851.  So far, no butchers!

What info do you have about her mother & brothers?  Are they definitely belonging to her?

;)
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Emma Hamlin
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 27 November 05 13:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Arranroots
Longshot but sometimes they pay-off - could you check image in 1851 for this young lady?

Emma Jane Bearn born Bovey Tracey 1833 living in Devon

Can't find a match for her in 1841 so am wondering if this is a weird mistranscription.
Cheers Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: Emma Hamlin
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 27 November 05 13:49 GMT (UK) »
No, correctly transcribed: father William a "taylor", mother Phebe.

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Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN - HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD - GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS - WIL: WEBB, SALTER - RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS - GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY - MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD - SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON - IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)