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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 16:59 GMT (UK) »
ok i have this family
living in snenton,nottinghamshire in 1891
william smith 21yrs working in plastic mill born nottingham
fanny 22yrs born worcester bromsgrove
fanny 1yr old born nottinghamshire
william smith father 47yr old plasterer
how does this look????
alli
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 17:00 GMT (UK) »
Ooh that looks good alli - what do you think jacqui?
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 17:05 GMT (UK) »
Can you have a look at this one for 1871 alli?

Not named Townsend born Bromsgrove circa 1871 living Worcestershire
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 17:14 GMT (UK) »
the not named townsend is a male. father edwin mother ann
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somerset- quick,baker,stephens,atyeo,rowswell,callow,marks
durham- marshall,fairbairn
worcestershire- stephens,bishop
gloucestershire - stephens
middlesex - chesney


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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Can't find a good match in 1881 - well other than unamed now known as Frank. Now if Fanny and William didn't have kids I'd be wondering :D
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Back from the history museum

Bulls walk is in St Nicholoas Parish,  the next road Angel Row is in all saints parish.

So I looked in the all st saints parsih this time 

I have found the marriage for Fredrick joseph smith marrying fanny smith in 1896 in all saint parish
the maiden name of fanny was SMITH


I have found also in the All saints parish Records.  The baptism for  Joseph smith date of registration 16th august 1898
mother: Mary smith
farther :William smith
living at angel row
with is new information

I went to the 1901 census records for
Angel Row  Worcester
and found

William smith aged 39 head bricklayers labourer
born: Worcester
Mary smith    aged 38 wife  born somersetshire bath
Eliza?smith    aged 16 dau   born  Worcester
William smith aged 14  son             "        "
Martha smith aged 12 dau              "          "
Harriet smith  aged 10dau               "         "
Annie smith    aged 4  dau              "          "
Joe     smith    aged 2  son              "          "
RG13/2777
1901 fiche 73 
173-174


I also found  a burial of a William smith
address blackfriars
Date of burial Feb 15th 1924 aged 62 years
Could this be Joseph's father!!!





Smith Worcestershire
Pardoe  Hartlebury Belbroughton Worcestershire
Hughes Bromsgrove Droitwich
Harris, Milton, Franklin, Grafton Gloucestershire,  
Harris, EmleyCastle
Townsend Bath Somerset
Bird worcestershire

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 19:38 GMT (UK) »
1891 census RG12 2325 folio 61
No 9 Court 4 Doldy All Saints  Worcestershire   
Smith, William 27 All Saints Head Marrid Bricklayer's labourer
Smith, Mary Ann 26 All Saints Wife  Married 
Smith, Elizabeth 7 All Saints Daughter 
Smith, William 5 All Saints Son 
Smith, Mary Ann 3 All Saints Daughter
Smith, Harriet 6mths All Saints Daughter   

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 19:50 GMT (UK) »
Fantastic ;D What do all those children mean for that 1891 marriage? is it not the one? or was William married before ???
Jan ;)
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bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge

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Re: help mystery joseph how do I trace him
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 07 December 05 20:03 GMT (UK) »
hi Valda

Does it say where Mary (wife) was born .   Is it still Bath or is All saints now?

I have tried to find them on the 1881 (as have no assess to the 1871 ) together in worcester and Bath.

With Mary living in Bath with family.
and with william in worcester with his family

but nothing coming up

Where has Martha gone or is Mary ann, Martha and maybe I didnt read the 1901 correct


janan

Are we sure that was the marriage if Mary came from Bath




Smith Worcestershire
Pardoe  Hartlebury Belbroughton Worcestershire
Hughes Bromsgrove Droitwich
Harris, Milton, Franklin, Grafton Gloucestershire,  
Harris, EmleyCastle
Townsend Bath Somerset
Bird worcestershire