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Re: The Mysterious James NEWBERRY
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 19 November 09 05:49 GMT (UK) »
There's nothing that I've seen to date that links the Beds/Herts Newberrys with the Dorset family, other than the name's the same. But the earliest Newberrys on the IGI  seem to have been from Devon/Dorset and Stepney London so it's possible that they spread out from the south-west.

The problem is Joseph Newberry alias Monk whose origin is unknown, and until his baptism is found it's pure speculation that he might be connected to the early minor gentry Newberrys, one of whom emigrated with his family to America

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: The Mysterious James NEWBERRY
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 19 November 09 10:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for clearing that up for me David.    ;D

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Re: The Mysterious James NEWBERRY
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 22 November 09 18:19 GMT (UK) »
Newberrys in America, there is a collection of BMDs called the Barbour Collection in Connecticut at www.dunhamwilcox.net/barbour/
If you scroll down to" Hartford n-o" you can view what is there for Newberrys in Hartford county from 1668 to 1852.

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Re: The Mysterious James NEWBERRY
« Reply #39 on: Sunday 10 October 10 07:12 BST (UK) »
Hello Newberry researchers:

I have recently begun a new web site for Newberry researching and DNA.  If anyone is interesting in joining, please notify me at (*).

We are posting lines from as many groups as we can.

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Re: The Mysterious James NEWBERRY
« Reply #40 on: Friday 15 October 10 22:40 BST (UK) »
Opps,  I have a feeling I shouldn't have put my email up.  Is that correct?  I got an email from "Bedfordshire boy"  with whom I have had cordial discussions quite often.  David, I sent you an invitation to the World Wide Newberry site.  Did you receive it?  ???  To the moderator, please accept my apologies on the fopah.
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Re: The Mysterious James NEWBERRY
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 16 October 10 06:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue

Yes I received the invitation and will be doing something about it this weekend!

Many thanks

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: The Mysterious James NEWBERRY
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 16 October 10 08:10 BST (UK) »
Great David!  Thanks for letting me know.  I hope you will contribute whatever you can.   Sue ;D
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Re: The Mysterious James NEWBERRY
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 20 October 10 05:47 BST (UK) »
On re-reading this thread I find I disagree with post #27!

A child didn't necessarily become a potential charge on a parish simply because he/she was baptised in that parish. A legitimate child, and the wife, automatically took the father's/husband's parish of legal settlement irrespective of where the child was born or baptised. It was only an illegitimate child whose parish of settlement was its parish of birth (hence the desire of parish overseers to remove pregnant single women who weren't local back to their own parish, so that the child didn't become a liability for them)

I recently came across a case of a deserted wife and her two children, all born in Derby, being removed from Derby to Shillington, Beds, as that was the husband's parish of settlement. The children ended up in Ampthill Union workhouse and the mother disappeared off to America, where the children joined her nine years later!


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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell

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Re: The Mysterious James NEWBERRY
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 20 October 10 17:26 BST (UK) »
Hi David:  In doing reading in the medieval period, I have also found that "wardship" of a child was transfered to an 'appropriate' individual even when his mother was living and especially when it came to children of the upper classes.  Either the king or the lords of the demesne seemed to have charge over children and their welfare, especially when it came to boys of landed status who lost their fathers before they reached their majority.  They often became part of a parish which was not their own.  I am not sure how long this wardship convention lasted in the historical time line, but it might also be something to consider when it comes to this topic of conversation.
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